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1 Year Ed Visa: Hand to Hand Combat

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How To Get a 12 Month Education Visa Without Studying Thai

Digital Nomads, Expats and Visitors that want to stay and live in Chiang Mai for 12 Months without having to learn Thai!

It happens all the time. People come to visit Chiang Mai, fall in love with the place, then want to stay much longer than first anticipated.

Not long ago you could get a 12-month Education Visa to “study” the Thai language which included an exemption from the 90-day reporting to immigration. How quickly things change. Not only has length of stay for this visa been slashed to 6 months, Thai Immigration now wants to see you every 90 days for that legendary reporting process that takes 3-5 hours and can add years to your life. If that wasn’t bad enough, Immigration is actually now spot testing Thai language proficiency and rejecting visa extensions for those who fail. To top it all off, class times have also increased.

So where does this leave you if you want to stay as a Digital Nomad serving your clients from afar or as a semi-retired individual not old (or rich) enough to qualify for a Retirement Visa.

What if I were to Tell You There is a Way?

What if you could obtain a 1 year ED Visa without learning Thai or having to attend as much school time? You can get the one year visa for a total cost of 35,000 baht. No more hassle waiting 5 hours at Immigration every 90 days for your Education Visa. No need to spend hours a week studying to ensure you pass the Immigration spot tests. And a whole year not just the new 6 months on the typical Thai Language ED Visa

The school will arrange to take you to Immigration (they queue in the morning and call you in) and make sure everything goes well.

AND

Your trainers are Military Police!  It’s not Immigration you have to worry about—it is the Army. Imagine having connections with the people who can really help you?

Additional Information

Retirement Visa
All Types of Visa’s

 

 

Here is the short and sweet of the 1 year ED Visa

bullet-greenED Visa for 12 Months
bullet-greenHand to Hand and Body Guard Training
bullet-greenNo More Immigration Problems

bullet-greenNo More Study of Thai Language
bullet-greenOnly 35,000 Baht

bullet-greenThai Military Police
Instructor
bullet-greenTrainer is a VIP Bodyguard in Chiang Mai
bullet-greenSchool arranges all Immigration Visits and 90-Day Reporting
bullet-greenLow Commitment of Time Compared to ED Visa
(Learning Thai)
bullet-greenAmazing Contacts in the Military Police
bullet-greenLearn a Skill that will Benefit you the Rest of your Life

 

You get to Stay 12 Months in Thailand!

PLUS – You get to make a friend of a high-ranking official of the Military Police

How to get a Self Defense Hand-to-Hand Combat Visa and Live in Chiang Mai for One Year

This is a self defense training school that is suitable for all ages and all fitness levels.  You are learning self defense and combat which does not require a high level of personal fitness.  Not only that, this is cool stuff. You learn to take care of yourself and how to defend yourself.

Thai Ed Visa Combat School

If you are traveling the world you should
be able to take care of your personal safety.

 

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Thai 1 Year Non O Volunteer Visa

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How to get a 1 year Non O Volunteer Visa/Work Permit.

Digital Nomads, Expats and Visitors that want to stay and live in Chiang Mai for 12 Months!

If you have decided that Chiang Mai is the place for you and you would like to stay longer, you want to know what are the best Visa options to accomplish this.  Until recently you could get an ED Visa and learn Thai Language, and stay for a year – but now Immigration want to see you every 90 days and the reporting process takes 3-5 hours.  Worse, they now are actually testing your Thai language skills and rejecting your Visa if you fail.

But what if you want to stay here, either as a Digital Nomad to work on your own business, or as a longer term semi retirement and you are not old enough (or have sufficient savings) to qualify for a Retirement Visa?

What if I was to tell you there is a way? 

What if you could obtain (for around the same price as a 6 month education Visa), 1 year Non O Volunteer Visa and a Thai Work Permit?  You can get the one year visa and work permit for a year for a total cost of 35,000 baht.  No more hassle waiting 5 hours at immigration every 90 days for your Education Visa. No need to spend hours a week studying to ensure you pass the Immigration spot tests. And a whole year not just the new 6 months on the Ed Visa

Get 12-18 Months Non O Visa and make these Kids Happy!

Get 12 Months Non O Visa and make these Kids Happy!

Additional Information
Retirement Visa
All Types of Visa’s

 

Here is the short and sweet of the 1 year Non O Volunteer Visa and a Thai Work Permit

bullet-greenNon O Volunteer Visa for 12-18 Months
bullet-greenWork Permit for Volunteer
bullet-greenNo More Immigration Problems

bullet-greenNo More Study of Thai Language
bullet-greenOnly 35,000 Baht

bullet-greenNon Profit Organization

bullet-greenCan renew following year without leaving Thailand
bullet-greenCan exit the country multiple times (With Entry Visa)
bullet-greenLow Commitment Time as a Volunteer compared to Language ED Visa


 

You get to Stay 12 Months in Thailand!

PLUS – You get to give back to those who are not as fortunate

How to get a Volunteer Visa and Thai Work Permit and Live in Chiang Mai for One Year

This is a Visa and Work permit for Non Profit Organization. You will be required to engage in volunteer activities with the charity (primarily assisting disadvantaged children).  This will be in the form of

Volunteer work for the charity: 

* Cooking and preparing food
* Delivery and serving food packages in local schools and Hill-Tribe communities
* Planting Trees in Villages
* Teaching English to Children
* Many other types of work

Procedure to Apply

1) Ask Questions with Email or make a 15 Min Appointment to Discuss in our Office.

2) Send in or Bring in this Completed Form.

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We will forward your details to the Non Profit Organization who will conduct the necessary security checks with both local police and from your home State or Country.

If Accepted  to Continue ….

3) Bring your passport into Chiang Mai Buddy (we need copies), the 35,000 Baht Processing Fee and 12 photos size 6 x 4 cm and 12 photos 3.5 x 4.5 cm and 3 Work Permit Photos 3 x 4 cm.  Please be sure that the photos have a white background and that the work permit photos are obtained from a proper photography store using real photographic paper. The other photos can be obtained from any shop printing photos on a printer.

4) We will send your application out for processing.  (We can schedule an Appointment with the Head of the NPO, and Visa services if you require to satisfy your questions)

5) In 2-3 Days your documentation to apply for a Non O Visa will be ready (Pick up from Chiang Mai Buddy)

6) Do Visa trip to Laos (or Embassy of your choice – so long as we know), handing in your Visa Application at Thai Embassy (takes 2-3 days)

7) You will now have a 90 day Non O Visa

Come Back to Thailand

8) Obtain Medical Cert for Work Permit (Includes test for syphilis) 250-360 Baht from a Hospital (Not Medical Clinic)

9) Details of your Address, copies of Degrees (and address of the School) and/or Resume (CV) will then need to be provided

10) After a few days you will be taken to the Ministry of Employment and issued a letter granting permission to extend your visa one year and a work permit

11) Extend your Visa for 12-18 months (This depends on the Immigration Officer on any one day)

You can renew visa and work permit for the following year (no need to leave Thailand again) and leave the country multiple times with a Multi Entry Visa (additional cost)

N.B.

1) Having all of the required documentation before you leave to obtain your Visa is preferred.
2) Please be sure that the photos have a white background and that the work permit photos are obtained from a proper photography store using real photographic paper. Photos printed with blue background and work permit photos printed on on standard consumer paper will be rejected.

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What is Included

The processing fee includes

1) The Non Profit preparing the documentation inviting you to Apply (required for the Non O Visa)
2) Processing of documentation every 3 months to extend your Visa
3) Processing of the Work Permit Documents
4) Taking you out to collect your Work Permit
5) All fee associated for the year for processing

What you will have to do

1) Go to a Thai Embassy of your Choice
2) Go to Immigration to process the Visa Extension (documents provided)
3) 90 Day Reporting
4) Provide your own resources for living in Thailand
5) Remain or return to Chiang Mai for Immigration Visits and Volunteer requirements

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Benefits of a Non O Visa and Work Permit

For the average Digital Nomad, or short time visitor to Chiang Mai, a tourist Visa is all that is required.  But for those who desire to stay longer, there are so many more benefits to having a legal backing and permission to live (and work) in Thailand. While some of the following are possible on a Tourist Visa, most are not.  Once you have a Non O Visa and Work Permit, you can

bullet-greenOpen a Bank Account
bullet-greenPurchase and Sell Vehicles
bullet-greenNo More waiting at Immigration

bullet-greenNo More Visa Runs or Boarder Crossings
bullet-greenNo More Residency Certificates Required

bullet-greenDiscounts to Government Parks and Attractions
bullet-greenCan WORK Legally (as a Volunteer)
bullet-greenOpen a trading account with a broker
bullet-greenCan get a Thai Credit Card
bullet-greenSpouse can obtain a Non – O visa

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Easier to send money out of the country

bullet-greenThai Social Security system – Full health care coverage
bullet-greenGet a Thai driving license
bullet-greenSend your kids to a Thai public school at low cost

bullet-greenImproved status of stay in the Kingdom (can stay forever)
bullet-green
Get a mobile phone contract easier
bullet-greenHire Purchase and Monthly Installments on Purchases
bullet-greenGet Thai rather than Farang Prices
bullet-greenAirport Thai passport holders desk Check In
bullet-greenPeace of Mind with Thai Authorities 

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Obligations to the Non Profit Organization

volunteer visa

You are applying to be a Volunteer, and as such you will be obligated to do charity work.  Every 90 days the Charity is obligated to send evidence of you being a volunteer.  If you do not volunteer your time then your Visa will be cancelled.  While we offer assistance to a few non profits, the most popular is the a foundation who works with disadvantaged children.  You will be contacted during your stay here about the various activities you have been selected to participate in, and you will be obligated to find your way to this activity.  Usually within 10-15 kilometers of the city of Chiang Mai.

1. Feed School Children  Free lunch is provided to school children. You will go to the school with the NPO and help hand out pre-made lunches.

2. Second hand for Children You can made donations of used property which will be collected and donated to Children in the Mountain and rural areas.  You will help transport and distribute these items

3. Book/Pen/Pencil anything for study!  The NPO provides educational materials to students.  You can donate and hand out some stationary.
4. Teaching English.  Every now and again you will be obligated for half a day (or longer if you wish) to play games that help Thai Children learn English skills

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Want to Find out More? Book a 15 Minute Appointment or Ask us Questions

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Volunteer Visa and Work Permit Guide

Book an appointment with Chiang Mai Buddy

Office Hours:
Monday to Friday 10 am – 5 pm
Saturday 10am – 4pm

Phone

Thai 091-068-8112

Office Location
39 Siri Mangkalajarn, Suthep, Chiang Mai
39 ศิริมังคลาจารย์ ต.สุเทพ อ.เมือง จ.เชียงใหม่
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Six Month Tourist Visa for Thailand

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The Six Month Tourist Visa for Thailand might soon become a reality. The Visa will cost 5000 baht and allow multiply entries and may soon be followed by a 12 month Tourist Visa.

The Minister for Tourism, Kobkarn Wattanavrangkul said that Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has given the go ahead for the proposal early August 2015. It is expected to come into effect within 60 days of cabinet approval and publication.  BUT! This Visa has been talked about and speculated upon for many years and in particular in the last 6 months.

Current Status of 6 Month Tourist Visa:  Not yet Available

Citizens from over 30 countries can currently enter the kingdom without a visa for up to 30 days, but some nationalities are required to pay around 1,000 Baht for a single entry 30 day visa.  The new 6 month Tourist Visa is expected to be available for all countries at a cost of 5,000 baht (but as of yet this is speculation)

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What does the 6 Month Tourist Visa mean for Digital Nomads?

Talk among Digital Nomads about a special Nomad Visa has been rife for the last year or so. Nomad communities will insist that they contribute to the Thai economy and how the country should make things easier for them – being able to live and work here.  The reality is this Visa has been created for the growing number of Chinese tourists, in an attempt to have them come multiply times to Thailand and increase their spending.  Compared to the Chinese Tourist, the contribution of a few Digital Nomads is insignificant.  While this Visa will allow people to come and set up a base in Thailand with the ability to spend a few weeks to a month or so out of the country – you will still be classified as a Tourist.

This means, limited access to opening a Thai Bank Account, an inability to get a Thai Drivers license and all the usual lack of advantages of being in the Tourist Status. It will still be illegal for you to openly work here in Thailand

The Good News

It will make using Thailand (especially Chiang Mai) a base for your South Asia travels.  You will be able to secure a 6 month lease on a condo (making for cheaper living with a kitchen), obtain a Bank Account and really have time to commit to your projects with the ability to exit the country and return.

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What does the 6 Month Tourist Visa mean for Retirees?

This is great news for people wanting to retire in Thailand.  Six months will give you the ability to travel around the country and spend a month or so in each of the locations you are considering.  You will be able to obtain a Bank Account, and have it ready for the required Funds (800,000 Baht) for the last two months required to obtain a Non O Retirement Visa.

This gives you the ability now to come and visit and make sure you really want to live here in Thailand and the time to make it happen from within the country.

Final Thoughts

At the moment all that has happened is the Prime Minister has approved the idea of this Tourist Visa.  It still needs to be passed through the system and made into Law.  Then it is expected within 60 days of this happening, the Visa will be available. No amount of publicity or blog posts or newspaper articles telling what we ‘hope’ will happen makes it a reality.  Check back to this article every now and again to see the status of progress at the top.  This will be updated as events unfold towards the reality of the Six Month Tourist Visa.

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How to get Residency Certificate in Chiang Mai

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How to get Residency Certificate in Chiang Mai

A residence certificate is a document made by immigration to certify where a foreigner lives. You can obtain this from your Embassy (if located in Chiang Mai, Bangkok or a larger city with a consulate)  but the cost is much higher (1700 Baht).  The immigration satellite office is supposed to issue these for free (and will do but it can take 2-8 weeks) or for a gift donation of 500 Baht it will be available the next day.

Getting your Residency Certificate is a straight forward and simply process.  The office is located about 10 kilometers outside of town and you have to go there twice. Once to drop off your application and the next day to collect it.

A Residency Certificate is good for 30 days after the date of it’s issue

The Immigration Satellite office, is located off the Super Hwy across from the Promenada Mall. Do NOT go to the Immigration office near the airport – they no longer process residency certificates. As of this time, the Immigration Department have not advised Google Maps of their location.  The exact location is listed on the map as the ‘Namber one garage’

Location of the Chiang Mai Immigration Department: Residency Certificates

The Building looks like this
Chiang Mai Residency Certificate Immigration

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will need to take:

1. Two (2) Color Photo’s 1.5 in x 2.36 in (4 cm x 6 cm)
2. Copy of Passport (1st Page; VISA Page; TM6). Bring your original Passport also.
3. Proof of Residence (Rental Contract or Yellow Residency Book or Letter from your Landlord)

Photocopiers and Photographs can be obtained at the office, as can the Thai Residency Certificate Form.  But it is better to be prepared and have these done.

Once you arrive you will take your completed documents to room 4, and will usually be asked if you want this the next day which will require a ‘gift fee’ of 500 baht.  While requesting this fee is illegal – just smile and hand over the money.  You will be told to come back the next day after 1pm.

If you are in no hurry for your certificate – the look on the Staff’s face when you tell them you will wait 2 (or 3 or 4 weeks) is priceless.  But when all said and done, you usually need your residency certificate in a hurry – so you pay the fine.

 
Want Help Getting Your Residency Certificate?

Chiang Mai Buddy will head down to the Residency Office (Twice) to get this application processed for you.

2000 BHT

 

The Next Day The next day after lunch (opens at 1pm) you want to go to the window at room 2 and show them your receipt and/or tell them your name.  Be patient and polite, you may see your application photograph being passed a few times as the staff look.  If you feel a little bit confident with your Thai language you can say “Ning Nai Krap/Ka” which means “There it is”.

Do not lean over the window or enter the room unless you are invited to do so.  If you see your photograph on the file and the immigration staff have gone past it – DO NOT put your hand in and point.  Thai manners are essential here, you will always smile and laugh and everything is your fault. – even them not finding what is plainly obvious to you

Collecting your residency certificate is a relativity easy process (the 2nd or 3rd time you do it). The first time like any Thai government department – it can be confusing.  If you do not speak Thai, try and take a Thai friend along with you.
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How to Get a 90 day extentsion

How to do 90 Day Visa Reporting in Thailand

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How to do 90 Day Visa Reporting in Thailand

Anyone who lives in Thailand for an extended period of time is all to familiar with the major inconvenience of having to visit the Immigration Office. Let’s not beat around the bush it is a major and royal “Pain in the Arse”

While the 90 day check in (properly called Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days) is one of the less time consuming processes compared to an 3 month Ed Visa check in; it never-the-less is not an enjoyable experience.  It is worth noting however that compared to other countries, the Immigration office in Thailand is fast, cheap and convenient.  All to often we forget that a Thai National trying to get a Visa to visit our countries involves much higher fees, much longer waits and non assurance the Visa will be issued once payment is accepted.

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Caution

New Rules as of May 1st 2015

Immigration have changed the 90 day reporting for Non O Visa’s and Retirement Visa’s.  You now have to check in at your province Immigration center nearest to your registered address.  Immigration just tell you “We can not do here go to abc city”.  But if you take your lease or house papers in they will change your registered address.  Or we at Chiang Mai Buddy can arrange this for you

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Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days

Procedure and notification

There are 4 ways you can apply for and obtain your 90 day check in documentation.

1) In Person: 

This is when you head down to the immigration office yourself. The first time you go it is usually a confusing and frustrating experience as you have no idea what is going on. Depending on the day and time you go (many head there before 6am to stand in line for the numbers.

2) Authorizes an Agent:

Usually after a persons first experience they decide this is not something that they enjoy and it is worth paying a Visa company money to do it on their behalf.  Fee’s vary around the country and seemingly at how much each business decide to charge.  Usually in the 1000-2000 Baht range.

3) By Registered Mail:

This is a little known secret, that is favored by those who have lived here long enough to know better than the average tourist.

4) Online:

Currently while this service is available, it is so unreliable and inconsistent (maybe 1 in 10 people can achieve online reporting). You need to have a web browser from several years back to bypass the security flaws in it.  Staff at Immigration will tell you it works, despite being told by many people a day it does not.

N.B.
1) The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires.
2) The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.

Chiang Mai Buddy

90 Day Reporting Service: 650 Baht

Let Chiang Mai Buddy do your 90 Day Report for you!
N.B.
We will not do these for ‘brought’ Retirement Visa’s. At this present time Chiang Mai Immigration are checking anything they consider suspicious and better you go there to clear anything up.

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90 Day Visa Notification Procedure: (In Person)

Many people will tell you to turn up early (6am) at the Immigration Office and wait for a number ticket.  The ticket will be issued around 7am and then office will open at 8.  Your ticket is the order at which you go to the counter and tell the Immigration department why you are there.  You will be given another ticket for that particular service.

A 90 day check in is a very simply and fast procedure.  Depending on when you go in and your luck it can take anywhere from 10 minutes to a few hours.  You can head to the Immigration office when you are ready.  Obviously the later in the morning and afternoon you go, the longer time you will wait. After any holidays where Immigration is closed you will wait longer.

(edit: Aug 2015)  The current situation in Chiang Mai (with the new office) is terrible.  While you used to be able to wait until the office opens, now it is highly recommended you go early and queue.  The office is handing out limited appointments each day (because they are slow) and you need to be there early to get an appointment.

Many people who turn up even an hour after the opening time are turned away and told to come back the next day.

 

Steps in The 90 Day Reporting Procedure:

You will need:

Passport
Filled out Notification of Staying Over 90 Days form (TM47) – see example below
Photocopy of your departure card (TM6) – see example below
Photocopy of previous 90 day reporting slip – see example below
Photocopy of the photograph page in your passport
Photocopy of your latest visa stamp

Step One:
Go to the Immigration Counter customer service window and tell them 90 Day Reporting.  They will issue you with a Ticket number and tell you an approximate wait time.

Step Two:
Sit and wait, if you have not already (silly you) fill in the TM47 form and sign each page of the photocopies.

Step Three:
When your number is called (10 minutes to a few hours), present the documents to the staff at the counter window. They will tell you to sit and wait again

Step Four:
After a period of time (about 10-15 minutes) your processed Passport will be available for pick up.  Your name will be called, and you are all done.

 

90 Day Visa Notification Procedure: (Registered Mail)

You will need to include the following items in a registered envelope including an addressed return envelope with a 10 baht stamp for your finished documents to be returned to you.

Photocopy of Passport pages with following pages

– front page showing Name / Surname / Passport No
– current visa
– last entry stamp of immigration
– last extension of visa

Photocopy of Departure Card TM.6

immigration departure card

Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any)

Immigration receipt

 

Completely filled in and signed notification form TM.47

Note: If you are in Chiang Mai use form TM.47-CM

90 Day Reporting Thailand

Mailing Address:

Notify 90 Days
Chiang Mai Immigration
71 Moo 3 Amphoe Muang
Chiang Mai
50200

Please Note: After you have mailed the documents:

  • Your registered mail must be sent to the Immigration office at least 15 days before the due date of notification.
  • Your new form will be stamped as of the expiration date of your old receipt.
  • Please keep your receipt of your registered mail in case of lost mail.
  • Your document can not be processed if you have passed the 90 days limit. (You must come to the nearest immigration office or Immigration Division 1 in person to pay fine 2,000 Baht)
  • Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt.
  • The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a visa extension.
  • If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht.
  • If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case.

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Chiang Mai Buddy

90 Day Reporting Service: 650 Baht

Let Chiang Mai Buddy do your 90 Day Report for you!
N.B. We will not do these for ‘brought’ Retirement Visa’s. At this present time Chiang Mai Immigration are checking anything they consider suspicious and better you go there to clear anything up.

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Addresses of Immigration Offices around Thailand

The location and buildings of the various offices around Thailand are always changing.  Rather than provide outdated information I suggest you call the office at the location you are at, and get the address first hand. (or search the city immigration website

Chiamg Mai 90 Day ReportingChiang Mai Immigration Promenada (map)

Notify 90 Days (as of 20 July 2015)

Promenada Chiang Mai Immigration
192-193 Moo 2
Tumbon Tasala,
Amphur Muang
Chiang Mai
50000

d2_cnx@immigration.go.th

 

 Location Phone
 Aranyaprathet   0-3723-1131, 0-3723-2672
 Bangkok Harbour   0-2249-0806-7
 Bangkok Head office   0-2287-3101-10
 Betong   0-7323-1292, 0-7323-0026
 Bunkan   0-4249-1832, 0-4249-2016
 Chiang Khan   0-4282-1175
 Chiang Khong   0-5379-1332, 0-5379-1633
 Chiang Mai   0-5327-7510, 0-5328-2532
 Chiang Mai Airport   0-5327-7190, 0-5327-7180
 Chiang Saen   0-5377-7118, 0-5377-7303
 Don Muang Airport   0-2535-1111 ext. Immigration
 Fang   0-5345-3131
 Hat Yai   0-7424-3019
 Hat Yai Airport   0-7425-1096, 0-7422-7216
 Kan Tang   0-7525-1030
 Kanchanaburi   0-3451-3325
 Kap Chung   0-4455-9166
 Khemmarat   0-4549-1211
 Khlong Yai   0-3958-8108
 Khuan Don   0-7472-2731
 Kong Chaim   0-4535-1084
 Krabi   0-7561-1097
 Laem Ngop   0-3959-7261
 Mae Hong Son   0-5361-2106
 Mae Sai   0-5373-1008 ext. 11, 12
 Mae Sariang   0-5368-1339
 Maptaphut   0-3868-4544, 0-3868-3673
 Mukdahan   0-4261-1074
 Nahorn Phanom   0-4251-1235
 Nakhon Sri Thammarat   0-7532-4092
 Nan   0-5479-5009
 Nong Khai Head   0-4241-1605, 0-4242-0242
 Padang Besar   0-7452-1611, 0-7452-1020
 Pattani Harbour   0-7334-9302, 0-7334-9480
 Pattaya   0-3842-9409, 0-3841-0240
 Phangna   0-7641-2011
 Phiboonmangsahan   0-4544-1108, 0-4544-1988
 Phuket   0-7621-2108-10
 Phuket Airport   0-7632-7138, 0-7635-1107
 Pong Nam Ron   0-3938-7127
 Ranong   0-7782-1216
 Sadao   0-7430-1107, 0-7430-1401
 Samui   0-7742-1069
 Samut Prakan   0-2395-0029
 Samut Sakhorn   0-3482-0739
 Sangkraburi   0-3459-5335
 Satun   0-7471-1080
 Siracha   0-3831-2571
 Songkhla Harbour   0-7431-3480
 Sri Chang   0-3821-6215
 Suan Pluh, Div. 1   0-2281-5144
 Suan Pluh, Div. 2   0-2929-8706, 0-2535-425x
 Suan Pluh, Div. 3   0-2287-3903, 0-2287-3130
 Sungaikolok   0-7361-1231
 Surathani   0-7727-3217
 Tak   0-5553-1316, 0-5553-4844
 Tak Bai   0-7358-1239

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Get a Thai Visa or Work Permit

Why Chiang Mai is Number 1 for Digital Nomads

24 Reasons Chiang Mai is the Best Place for Digital Nomads

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Why is Chiang Mai the best place for Digital Nomads?

Being a digital nomad allows the total freedom pack your belongings get in a plane and work wherever you want. Why then are so many (possibly over 3000) digital nomads choosing to live and work for extended periods in Chiang Mai City Thailand?

I myself, have done the working online and traveling since 2002, long before Tim Ferris and the 4 Hour Work Week, gave me a job title, I could use to explain myself to others.  Back in the early days, I traveled the United States in an RV, paying US$500 a month just for satellite dial-up internet connection.  In 2 years of RV’ing  I only ever meet one other person you could call a digital nomad.  Twelve years later, after many countries and scores of cities, I found myself returning to Chiang Mai so often, I decided there was no longer any point going anywhere else. In Chiang Mai hardly an hour goes by without meeting another nomad sitting in a cafe, a coworking place, a meetup and even just walking down the street.

So what makes Chiang Mai so appealing to the Digital Nomad?

I am going to bet, this is not the first blog post you have read about Chiang Mai right?  It seems that now, there is not a travel blogger worth their salt who has not been or lived here and written about this beautiful Northern Thailand city.  In fact there are social groups here in Chiang Mai just for travel bloggers to get together and hang out.  Chiang Mai is home to thousands of Nomads, from all categories of online business. Already Digital Nomads know that Chiang Mai is the number one city, and there are hundreds of reasons we keep coming and returning.

Chiang Mai Buddy was created and set up due to the increasing number of digital nomads who began discovering what Expats knew years ago; That Chiang Mai ROCKS!  Our focus is of course to help prepare you to make coming to Chiang Mai a stress free and as inexpensive as you can.  Because despite all the amazing benefits of this city, packing up and moving to a new country is a huge life decision.  Having a friend already in the city helps makes the transition easier.  But enough of the sales talk.  lets look at why you should make the decision to put Chiang Mai at the top of your list.

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1) Chiang Mai Digital Nomad Community

Digital Nomads having a ball in Chiang Mai

Chiang Mai Digital Nomads have an active and strong social network

Chiang Mai has an incredible amount of open social network groups that are constantly providing training seminars, dinners, social outings, meetups and networking opportunities.  Gone are the day’s where networking in Chiang Mai required joining private membership clubs such as the Tropical MBA Podcasts ‘Dynamite Circle. ($588 per year) or the more recent Nomads List (one off $49).  In fact the free and open social networking groups in Chiang Mai, Thailand have memberships that exceeds these world-wide communities several times over.

The social communities in Chiang Mai, provide information on “how to…”, “where to…” and “when to…”; along with opportunities for hiring and selling the services of each other within the local environment.  Least not, the constant social events, training seminars by visiting experts and free workshops put on by locals wanting to network and promote their services. – And that is just the Nomad Groups!

Long before discovered by Digital Nomads, Chiang Mai was (and still is) a retirement haven for many Expats from  around the world.  They have over years built social and entertainment networks that exceed many times over the specialty digital nomad communities.  Lana Cricket have used the Gymkhana sports grounds for over 50 years, ranging a wide variety of tennis, golf, cricket and other sporting and social events.

“Wait a Minute”, I hear some of the readers say, “This is about Digital Nomads, why are you telling me about the other stuff”?.  Here’s the bottom line ….  So many Nomads who make Chiang Mai their home, never extend their social networks outside of the digital community.  BIG MISTAKE!.  The stories you will hear from retired English MI6, as they argue with retired American Intelligence agents over a beer are far more interesting than Joe Nomads latest SEO budget expenditure and the results.  The amount of information you will gleam at the Chiang Mai Expats club breakfast or one of their scheduled events, is an incredible wealth of information and resources.  If you are going to live in Chiang Mai for an extended period of time – do not make the mistake of burying your head in the silicon sand of exclusively Nomad world..

Some of the Many Social Networks available in Chiang Mai
For more check out our Resources

I Love Chiang Mai – We all love Chiang Mai – there is a great files section with loads of information. This is a secret group, you will need a friend who is a member add you

Chiang Mai Events  – it’s usually here if it is happening in Chiang Mai.

Couch surfing in Chiang Mai – Couch surfing in the international free accommodation and travel group.

Whats Happening Chang MaiThe primary focus of ‘What’s happening in Chiang Mai’ is to provide to voice to those connected to Burma and social justice issues generally. We welcome posts that are of value to the audience advertising events, and important news affecting our community.

What, Where, When Chiang Mai – A page for people, event organizers, promoters, bar owners, club owners to let everyone know what’s happening in Chiang Mai. Feel free to add people to the group, the more people on here the more we’ll know what’s happening in and around Chiang Mai

Chiang Mai – For people wanting to come to or already living or just interested in Chiang Mai

Digital Nomads in Chiang Mai  – Over 3000 digital nomads make Chiang Mai their home.  Most of them share ideas and events in this group

Chiang Mai Happy Hour Nomads – Looking for a new place to get together with friends? New in town and looking for a group to join n for drinks? Keep an eye on our group for our weekly meetups… We will explore new bars, return to old favorites and share our experiences along the way.

TEDx Chiang Mai – Chiang Mai’s affiliated TEDx talks

Farang Community Chiang Mai – An ask and you shall receive group for foreign nations in Chiang Mai.

Teachers of Chiang Mai – If you have questions about teaching vacancies, necessary teaching credentials, professional development ideas or just need some ideas for teaching activities post your comments here!

Teachers in Thailand: Agarn –  The Ajarn school forum and Facebook page

Thailand Foreign English Teachers Network – Support group for Foreign Teachers in Thailand.
Job postings, visa issues, agents issues, Classified advertising, Group trips and more

2) Cost of Living in Chiang Mai

Cost of living in Chiang Mai Thailand

Front page of the Nomad List website .. says it all

One of the biggest attractions of Chiang Mai, Thailand is the cost of living.  The Nomad List website, which compares the cost of living in cities around the world, rank Chiang Mai as one of the cheapest places to live.  This is supported by the Digital Nomad Community forum and website, as well as International Living, a subscription based retirement community.

You can live here on an extreme budget, choosing accommodation like Siriruk Apartment for less than $100 a month.  Or for $500 stay in a fully serviced Hotel like the Victoria.  If you are staying here longer, you are able to lease a condo (usually 6 months minimum but can sometimes you can find one for 3 months) and save even more.

A Motorbike rental can start as low as $60 a month, but beware, this will be a low quality bike.  Most likely older, 100 cc manual motorcycle.  You are much better off spending $90-100 and get a newer 125cc bike large enough and with enough power for the western frame. Newer motorbikes not only pack more power and acceleration (which might save your life) they are easier on the fuel as well.  Better bikes will end up alost as cheap to run as the cheaper older ones.

Food in a Thai Thai (the word to explain a typical local place) restaurant starts at 25 baht and seldom goes past 40 (US 75 cents to $1.20). Most people tend to go to the local places in more urban areas where you are looking at US$1-2 for a meal.  Western food usually cost more, but still much cheaper than is typical in your home country.  Although you will generally find eating out is cheaper than cooking food yourself at home.

You can live in Chiang Mai for about $500 a month.  You will live very well for $1000

3) Availability of Accommodation

Chiang Mai city is growing.  From almost any view in any Condo or monthly rental accommodation you will see new accommodation buildings going up. Long term condo leasing (6-12 months) is easily found, shorter term (3 months) more difficult but not impossible.  Monthly accommodation is readily available in the low seasons, but during high seasons you should book ahead of time.

Chiang Mai is not just a popular destination for online entrepreneurs, it is popular with tourists from all around Asia and Thais from other parts of the country.  The city is taking advantage of the increased tourist and short term visitors and building accommodation to satisfy the need.   This means that rental prices are going to remain low for years to come. There are buildings that are popular with the Chinese, with Japanese, with western Expats and some even fill of digital nomads.  So while accommodation is available – knowing where to live so that you are with people like you, is the biggest consideration

N.B.  On many websites and blogs people will say “Accommodation is easy, just turn up and look around”.  This used to be the case.  Since we founded Chiang Mai Buddy, 80% of our customers have come from street walk-in’s after they found that finding accommodation was much more difficult than they read online. I strongly suggest you do not take the risk during peak season of hoping for the best. Book a place and then look around.

4) Digital Nomad Hotspot

Now the most popular location in the world, Chiang Mai is full of digital nomads.  If you are starting out on your nomadic adventure, you will meet more of your future companions, friends, competitors and collaborators in Chiang Mai than anywhere else in the world.  You can find people who are here for a short time and want to travel, making it the best destination to find new friends to plan your future adventures with.

For those who want to stay longer, making Chiang Mai their hub for slow travel, there are many ex nomads (or nomads on a break) who have made this city their home.  In addition there are people who make their money online who do not consider themselves part of the digital nomad community.

Whatever your purpose for coming, be it short-term stay to start your career, bootstrapping, or because you have found yourself getting tired of living out of a suitcase. Chiang Mai has experienced and successful online entrepreneurial and newbies bootstrapping their dreams.  And the community shares information and helps each other with an openness and willingness to share.

5) Internet and WiFi

I am not going to lie, in your accommodation if you are sharing the internet it can be slow (2-10 mbps down and .5-2 mbps up).  But getting your own internet is easy and cheap.  Unlimited 10 Down and one up plans start at 550 baht per month. At Chiang Mai Buddy office we have 30 Down and 10 up, 112 TV Stations and a cell phone with more data than we need for a grand total of 799 Baht (Less tan $30 a month).

Cafes and Coworking spaces offer much faster internet speeds, and with a phone plan of $10 a month or more you have access the the massive amount of Phone provider WiFi hotspots all around the city.  Free WiFi is everywhere, paid internet is extremely cheap.  In my early days living here I visited so many cafes and eateries (each with free WiFi) that I could walk around and almost always be connected automatically on my phone.  But then I discovered how to get prepaid phone services and never had to worry about looking for free wIFi again.

6) Coworking Spaces and Cafes

In Chiang Mai you can not throw a stone without hitting 1) a Temple, 2) a 7/11 and 3) a place for the digital nomad to work from.  There are now 5 or 6 major coworking spaces, several smaller ones and new places opening all the time.  Every cafe offers free WiFi and has no problems with customers spending hours at a time sitting and working from within.  It is good manners to make a purchase every hour or so, but you are seldom approached or requested to.

You can be assured that at almost every cafe in town (and there are 1000’s of them) your fellow Nomad will be there working away, and often eager to spend some time chatting and making new friends.  You can check out the most popular coworking spaces in this article

7) Working Productivity

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When you think of how the Digital Nomad lifestyle is presented to people before they start what do you think?  It’s the laptop at the beach right? Drinking coconuts! This is in reality – marketing bullshit.  Unless you have incredible time management and conditioned yourself with a disciplined work effort – if you are at a beach you are much more likely to be unproductive.

In Chiang Mai there is amazing support networks and social outlets, mastermind groups and more important you are surrounded by people being productive.  You are much more likely to get inspired here to work (and make money), if you are the some result of the 5 people you hang out with most – Chiang Mai is the place to find those type of people and mentors.

8) Chiang Mai Coffee

Chiang Mai Coffee

Chiang Mai Coffee Farmer explains bean flavors

Do you like Coffee?  People in Chiang Mai do!.  Here many of the thousands of cafes will have their own coffee farms and provide coffee that is some of the highest quality in the world.  The coffee here is what is known as the top 1% by those who spend time slurping and spitting it out. The Chiang Mai region grows Coffee –  It is 100% organic, grown under natural shade at high attitudes and hand picked, wet processed and dried in the sun, and packaged with single source beans.

If you compare this with the media attention grabbing Colombian coffee, which is often grown in fields, harvested with tractors and mixed with beans from other locations – Chiang Mai coffee ROCKS!

9) No Horns, Hustlers, Poverty & Ripoffs

Reasons to Live in Chiang Mai

In Chiang Mai, you are NOT constantly asked to buy things

For the beginner starting to travel around Asia, something they do not tell you in the guide books, or often mention online .. is the Bustle.  In many parts of Asia (Philippines, Saigon, Cambodia, South Thailand) the poverty is overwhelming.  You are confronted by beggars on the streets consistently asking for money.  For the new Nomad, trying to enjoy a beer at 3 am in a nice (or not so nice) bar to be interrupted by a naked 3 year old child with their hands out, is heart breaking (and then often gets annoying).

Touts, Salespeople, Tuk Tuk drivers, Prostitutes, consistently and persistently harass you.  In the Philippines along some of the most happening beaches, you will say no to someone trying to sell you fake sunglasses, and the next walking sales person will hear you say “No” but still approach you.  This type of constant harassment gets old really fast.    In Cambodia you will be offered a ride, then weed, and then a lady, and then 2 minutes later the cycle is repeated.

Horns are used in Asia, to let someone know they are 100 meters from them and approaching, that they are behind them, passing them, have past them, are in front of them, and just because they have not used the horn in the last 30 seconds.  The noise pollution is incredible.  Now some people find this last point “vibrant’ and actually enjoy the massive speed at which the world passes by them and the noise it makes. In Saigon, you are constantly being abused with this type of noise pollution.

This stuff does not happen in Chiang Mai

Yes a Tuk Tuk driver will slow down and ask you if you want a ride, a wave “No” of the hand and they move on.  You are not followed and repeatedly asked to buy things from touts on the streets.   Chiang Mai is a relaxed and layed back city that does not harass the tourists or westerners who live here. So if you need to work, if you need to focus, and you prefer an environment that is not consistently bombarding you with noise and harassment – Chiang Mai is your city.

10) Fantastic Weather

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From November to February the weather in Chiang Mai is perfect.  Clear blue skies with 30°C temperatures and low humidity during the day and lower temperatures at night. Around March the temperature starts to get hotter, but Chiang Mai being located in the mountains is always a few degrees C lower than anywhere else in Thailand and most places in Asia.

The rainy season starts around May and sometimes goes until October.  The rain usually happens once or twice a day for 30-60 minutes.  And it is a downpour!.  You will have about 30 minutes warning as the dark clouds roll in and 10 minutes before it starts the wind picks up.  If you are under cover the refreshing breeze and cooler temps are a welcome visitor.

During the rainy seasons (really it should be referred to as the daily hour of rain) the surrounding area of Chiang Mai is beautiful.  Day trips, and rides to see the tourists spots or just to go on an adventure, will offer some of the best photos you will ever have the privileged of taking.  Worse case (because you do not want to ride in the rain) is that for 30-60 minutes you will have to stop off and sit back and relax at a cafe along your trip.

11) Worlds Best Food

Chiang Mai Street Food

Thai food is amazing, and here in Chiang Mai it is at least 1/10th of the price you would pay back home.   Food stalls and markets are found all over the city where you can sample local dishes for $1 a meal.

Well known Thai favorites like pad Thai and green curry are readily available, and Chiang Mai is famous for its local specialty Khao Soi. If you decide to attend a cooking school (around $30 for a half to full day) you will discover the secret to Khao Soi (OK, OK it is a Thai red curry with Indian curry powder mixed in)

Vegetarians and Paleo are extremely well catered for (Thais often go meatless in their meals for special Buddha events). When you tire of Thai food, there are hundreds of restaurants that cater for every other taste.  Indian, Mexican, Greek – you name it, Chiang Mai has an expat who has decided to open it.  For more details  Where to find Western Food in Chiang Mai

12) Cheap Fresh Produce

If you decide you want to cook for yourself (and most people give up on this idea after a week or two of living here because it IS cheaper to eat out) then the local markets in Chiang Mai are for you.  Lower prices than the supermarkets and full of local and imported from other regions of Thailand – the local markets are a busy and popular place with the locals.

The Markets can be slightly overwhelming for the new arrival, (we offer a quick lesson on how to go and purchase produce included with the Digital Nomad Start Up Tour) – but you will soon get the hang of it.

One of the Kings projects was to help the farmers convert from growing drugs to growing food. Farmers where taught how to grow particular crops and shown how to do it well.  If you are American – forget asking for organic, This is Thailand, almost all the food here is organic.

13) Relaxed, Non Sex-Tourist Atmosphere

Chiang Mai is a traditional city, populated with many migrants from the rural areas of Thailand.  These people have traditional and high values, and Chiang Mai is NOT what you might expect about Thailand from watching movies.  Here (unlike other parts of Thailand and Asia) you will not see the 90 year old man holding hands with his young beautiful play thing.  Yes this is Thailand, and there are parts of the city you can visit if you are feeling ‘lonely’ – but for the most part the people that stay here in Thailand have higher morals and codes of behaviors from the usual tourist.

Chiang Mai is also a relaxed city.  Things happen here at a slower pace, and no one is really in a hurry.  The city is big enough and caters for most people and most tastes, but lacks the zoom zoom speed of other Asian cities.  Some people find this slower pace is not for them

14) Fantastic People

Thailand is promoted as the land of smiles, and never more than in Chiang Mai.  The people are friendly and helpful and honest!  The locals here are not (unlike other parts of Asia) always looking for a way to get something from the tourist.  Locals will help you in times of need, and some of the sweetest natures in the world are possessed by the women here.

Because Chiang Mai is a relaxed and non sex tourist destination, many of the local expats are pleasant to know and engage with. As well Chiang Mai has 3 major Universities so the locals are youthful and educated.  One of the greatest things about being in Chiang Mai is that you do not have to always be on guard that your wallet is about to be taken advantage of.

15) Safety

Chiang Mai is rated as one of the safest cities in the world.  Crime against foreigners is extremely rare, and apart from riding a motorcycle, you will never feel intimidated or afraid for your safety.  You can freely and comfortably walk around either during the day or the small hours of the night and feel totally safe even if you are a single women alone.

The scams that fill the headlines in western media about Thailand and Asia just do not happen here in Chiang Mai – or at least are very very rare.  The one exception to this is the Mob run Karaoke Bars along Chang Klan road.  Here you can go in for an hour, have a few drinks with a few ladies and come out with a 30,000 baht bill.  Many (often drunk and loud) westerners do not understand how a few drinks and a couple of ladies flirting with them can cost $1000. The answer is simple – it is a scam – just don’t go there!

16) The Temples & Culture

things to know coming to Chiang Mai

Chiang Mai has Temples!  If taking photos of golden laced statues surrounded by orange and red clothed monks of all ages is your thing – you could spend months and months going to different places everyday.  If you are up in the early hours you will frequently see monks collecting elms along the side of the roads, monks traveling in public transport … monks monk monks!

Thai culture is valued very highly here in Chiang Mai, with a mixture of both rural and urban important events and traditions being celebrated.  Thailand and indeed Chiang Mai is relatively free from western religion, instead the vast majority of people (99%) are Buddhist and this culture is loudly and proudly displayed during the day to day activities of the people.  A few weeks before I wrote this post, myself and a friend where walking at night, and he collapsed and went unconscious.  Luckily we were outside of a medical clinic and the Doctor and nurses came to his aid, but the staff also immediately lite incense to appeal to the house spirit that controlled the area as well.

Asia is well known for its rich and vibrant culture, here in Chiang Mai you will be able to view massive amounts of it, each and everyday just walking around.

17) The Holidays & Festivals

The culture in Chiang Mai is vibrant and often celebrated.  Festivals and Public Holidays are times when the Locals, Expats and tourists alike relax, take time off and enjoy the many colorful and exotic experiences.  In particular Songkran (April 13-16) and Loy Kratong (Nov 25) are two events that draw overseas tourists and Thai’s from other regions of the country. These are two events that should be on everyone bucket list!

18) Beautiful Scenery and Landscapes

Chiang Mai Scenery

Let’s get this out of the way from the get go.  Chiang Mai is located in the North of Thailand, in the Mountains.  There are no beaches here.  But what is here is lush forests, mountains, old villages, rice fields, elephants, gardens, lakes, caves, temples, national parks and more.  There is a world outside of Chiang Mai (although it is fair to say there are many worlds contained within it as well).  that are absolutely spectacular.  Many Expats regularly go on motorcycle tours around the top of Thailand, taking several days.  More locally in just a few short hours you can go to many locations that will fill your camera memory card within hours.

19) So Much to Do!!

Chiang Mai Elephant Tour

There is more to life than just working, and in Chiang Mai there’s plenty to do in your downtime. You may have seen the Elephant Painting on Youtube – here in Chiang Mai you can go and see it for real.  You could visit one of the many Wats (temples); learn to cook Thai food, or how to give a massage.  Perhaps learn a new language or get qualified to Teach English and get a Visa and make money to live here long term.

Paintball, Salsa, Rock climbing, Trekking, Sports, all the usual things you would enjoy doing at home – PLUS the additional things you can only experience in Thailand.  Get blessed by a Monk, attend a retreat, learn how to train Elephants, relax with a $5 massage.  The choices are endless.

20) Cheap Medical Treatments

Here you can have breast implants for around US$1400, get braces for your teeth for half this amount. Dental treatment, Operations, Plastic Surgery – everything here is at almost a 1/3rd what you would pay in a socialist country with subsidized health care, and a fraction of what the typical American would would pay.

Health checks for $3, eye tests, medication the list goes on and on.  Thailand is a medical holiday country and these savings and benefits extend to local services provided by the medical health professionals here in Chiang Mai

21) Transport is Cheap

You can hire a motorbike for 3000 baht a month (sometimes less and sometimes more) – but if you want to use public transport it is easily affordable.  Chiang Mai is supposed to have a public bus system but you will never see it.  The reality is the Red Truck and Tuk Tuk mafia own this town.  Taxi’s are not allowed to drive around looking for customers, and there are no Motorcycle Taxi’s.  But! You can jump on the Red Trucks and travel for just 20 baht, a Tuk Tuk will cost you between 60-100 for a 5 kilometer trip (depending on the time of day and how well you haggle).

Hiring Cars for day trips is around 800-1200 baht.  If you need to do a Visa run, or want to visit another city (or country) the Bus, Train, Tour Vans and Flights are incredibly cheap.

22) Visa’s are Easy to Get

Starting late 2014, the government has started to tighten up the relaxed way they did the visa system here in Thailand.  Gone are the days where you could come in for 30 days and do visa runs to the boarder and extend your stay for ever.  Gone are the days where you would get an ED Visa and not actually attend your class.  Now you must have a proper Visa – but they are easy to get.

Most nationalities get a 30-day visa exemption when they arrive by plane, but if you want to stay long-term it’s best to get a 60-day tourist visa available from many neighboring countries—the nearest is Vientiane in Laos. A double-entry 60-day tourist visa will allow you to stay for six months by getting a 30-day extension at the immigration office, and then doing a border run after three months to renew.

Many people choose to use Chiang Mai as a base, and then visit other countries for a period of time, knowing they can always get another Visa in the countries they are in return to Chiang Mai.

If fact you can get a work permit through Chiang Mai Buddy for 30,000 baht.  Click here to find out how

23) Everything you will need is here

Chiang Mai is small enough to easily learn your way around and become familiar with the city, and big enough to have something for everyone.  There are may reasons that Chiang Mai is the Number one spot for Nomads – they can get and do anything they need to be successful.

Computer repairs, Internet, working spaces, recreational activities, women, friends, seminars, nature tours.  This list is too long to even attempt to begin to describe.

24) Chiang Mai Buddy

Chiang Mai is the first (and only as far as we are aware) city that has a Concierge Service specific for digital nomads. We make coming and staying in Chiang Mai an easy and stress free experience. We find you the best accommodation at the same price as if you walked in off the street, knew how to negotiate and paid cash. We pick you up and take you to your new home, motorcycle ready and waiting for you and then show you the hotspots for working, shopping and playing.

Once you are here, our online service means that you can call or send a text to have us make doctors or dental appointments, arrange for bank accounts, find child care, arrange for internet and TV – and everything and anything you could ask for.  How cool is that?

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Getting a retirement Visa Thailand

How to get a Retirement Visa in Thailand

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Thai Visa: How to Retire in Thailand

Chiang Mai, Thailand has for many years been one of the world’s top locations for Expats around the world to look at for retirement living.  The cost of living here is one of the cheapest in the world (great if you are surviving on a pension) – yet this modern northern city also provides all the benefits and luxuries you will find at home.  Chiang Mai is an exciting and vibrant city that you come to live the rest of your life, filling it with as much excitement and adventure, or opportunities to relax and enjoy as you choose.

Click here to get an idea of how far your dollar will go in Chiang Mai

Click here for information on other types of Visas (Not Retirement)

Get a Thai Visa or Work Permit

How to get a Retirement Visa to retire and live in Thailand

Obtaining a retirement Visa to come and live in Chiang Mai (or anywhere in Thailand) is still a pretty cheap and easy experience.  You can apply both within Thailand (changing your tourist Visa after deciding Chiang Mai is the place for you) or apply before you come from your home country.

In a NutshellIn a Nutshell to qualify for a Retirement Visa

50 years of age
Passport with 18 months left before expiring
Proof of Funds 800,000 Baht or US$ 25,000 or
Proof of income 60,000 a month or US$2,000
Fee 1900 Baht

N.B. It is often easier to get your Visa from your home countries consulate

 

Lets now look at some of the detailed requirements and process to apply for your Retirement Visa. At the beginning it can look like quite a bit of documentation, but as you go through the list and select which options apply for you, it will become less confusing.

Update:  Immigration Meeting at the Chiang Mai Expats Club
On 22 October, 2014 senior members of the Chiang Mai Immigration Department spoke at the monthly meeting of the Chiang Mai Expats Club (CEC) at Le Meridian Hotel. The Immigration officials developed a thorough presentation of the regulations concerning retirement visas and extensions, re-entry permits, 90-day reports, workload at the local office and other matters of interest to CEC members.

Video Topic Time Selection

0.00-7.00 Introduction  |  7.00-13.30 Retirement Visa  |  13.30- 17.15 Dependents (Spouse)  |  17.15-20.05 Change of Status  |  20.05-21.35 Re-Entry Permits  |  21.35-29.45 90 Day Reporting  |  29.35-35.30 Applying for an O Visa  |  35.30-fin  Immigration Work load


Video Via Chiang Mai Expats Club

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Retirement Visa

Requirements for a Non Immigrant Visa ‘O-A” (Retirement)

  • Must be 50 years of age or over.
  • Passport (must have at least 1 year (18 months preferred) remaining until it expires
  • Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year.
  • Holding the nationality or permanent residence of country of application
  • Proof of Financial requirement
  • Letter from Bank showing proof of deposits
  • Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited (including volunteer work).

Eligibility for Retirement Visa

  • Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).
  • Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).
  • Having no criminal record in Thailand or in the country of his/her nationality, or the country of his/her residence.
  • Not having prohibitive diseases ( Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis, third phase of Syphilis) as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No 14  B.E. 2535.
  • You must have at least 18 months validity on your current Passport

Documents Required for your 1st Visa

If applying from outside Thailand you may need 4 copies.  If applying from inside Thailand you may only need 1 or 2 copies

A – Application For VISA form TM 7   (Original + 4 copies)

B – Photo’s – (Passport-type photo, 2” x 2”, color, front-view, taken within 6 months, and write your name and last name on the back of each photo). They never check the photo for signature, but it is the law.

C – Copies of your  Passport (every page)  Sign every page

D – Copies of Personal Data Form – Click Here to Download Form

E – Copies of  Bank statement.    Deposit verification letter from your bank (if already here) stating the balance of your savings account (800,000 Baht). Normal cost about 100 to 200 baht.  This letter must not be older than 7 days.
OR
A Notarized Affidavit of Income from your Embassy,  with a monthly salary of no less than 65,000 Baht (US cost  ($50)  US Form download form.  This form can not be older than 6 months
OR
Combination of Bank Account and Income over 12 months = 800,000 Baht
OR
If you are married to a Thai National you need an Income Certificate with a monthly salary of no less than 40,000 Baht.  A Thai Bank account showing a reasonable amount is also required.

If you are applying using 800,000 Baht+ to meet financial resources:

a. First (Initial) Application – Needs to show funds have been on deposit at least 2 months before applying.
b. Subsequent (renewal) Application – Needs to show funds have been on deposit for at least 3 months before applying.

F – 4 copies of Police Clearance (Must be notarized) Stating the applicant has no criminal record (issued by the authority concerned of his/her nationality or residence. The verification must be no older than 3 months.  This Police Clearance applies only when applying from outside of Thailand and is not required when applying from here

G – 4 copies of a Medical Certificate.   When Issued from the country where the application is submitted, showing no prohibitive diseases as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No. 14 (B.E. 2535) (Leprosy, Tuberculosis [T.B], Elephantiasis, Drug addiction, Alcoholism, 3rd step of syphilis) with the name and address of the doctor. (the certificate must be valid no more than 3
months)

NOTE:
1) Medical Certificate – This is not required if the VISA is applied for or accomplished inside Thailand

2) If you are applying for your first retirement VISA in Thailand, you will first be issued an “O” VISA.  Then you return to immigration 3 months later, with the same paperwork, to get an “OA” VISA

3) The marriage certificate must be presented as evidence if the applicant wishes to have his/ her spouse stay together in the Kingdom. But if his /her spouse is not qualified for the retirement VISA the spouse will be considered for the Non-Immigrant Visa Type “O” or Temporary Resident

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Re-Entry Permits (Single 1000 Baht, Multiply 3800 Baht)

When you arrive in Thailand your Retirement Visa is good for one year (requiring 90 day reporting). Often you might want to use Thailand as your base and travel to other parts of Asia, or be able to return home in case of emergencies or special events.  Leaving the country without obtaining a re-entry permit will make your Visa void, and you will have to apply again.

You can apply for a re-entry permit (single or multiply) when you apply for your retirement Visa, or during your stay here in Thailand.

Documents Required for Re-Entry Permit to Thailand

  • Form TM8
  • First page of  Passport showing picture
  • Passport page showing latest VISA stamp
  • Passport page showing expiration date of passport
  • Copy of Arrival Card (your passport may have the Departure Card)
  • 1 photo – Passport-type photo, 2” x 2”, color, front-view, taken within 6 months, and write your name and last name on the back of each photo

NOTE:  A Multiple Entry Permit is only good until the expiration date of your current VISA.  There is not much point purchasing a multiply re-entry permit for example if you only have a few months left on your current retirement Visa and you intend to be out of the country for longer than a month.

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Now you are in Thailand, what are your Visa Obligations?

90 day Reporting

Every 90 days you will be required to check in with Immigration for your 90 day reporting.  This is essentially letting the Thai government (via Immigration Office) that you are still residing in Thailand.  If you would like go to immigration in person you can read about how to do this here

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We can process and submit your 90 Day reporting for you, have us at Chiang Mai Buddy head down to Immigration at 6am line up for you and submit your documents.  Then just pop into the Office the next day and pick up your Passport. The process is a 5 minute trip to our office.  Fee is 500 Baht.

 

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Form TM47
First page of  Passport showing picture
Passport page showing latest VISA stamp
Passport page showing expiration date of passport (If different from 1st page)
Copy of Arrival Card (your passport may have the Departure Card)
Proof of address (Ex: copy of Rental Agreement).  Only if your last 90 day reporting was not at Chiang Mai Immigration

 

N.B Fines for not Filing a 90 Day Report (TM47)

As per the Immigration website

The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a VISA extension. If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying

  • The fine for not checking in on time is 2000 baht plus 200 baht per day.
  • If a foreigner who did not make the  notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000 baht
  • If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case.

For details contact 0-2285-5142, 0-2287-3101-10 ext.2262, 2263

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Extending your Retirement Visa after 1 year (1900 Baht)

Once you are here in Chiang Mai, you are going to want to stay here or at the very least spend part of your year here (maybe during the winter in your own country).  Since you already have your first retirement visa, this process is called a Visa Extensions, and follows much the same procedure as you did when originally applying (only easier)

  • If you want to extend your Visa for another year, he or she must submit a request for an extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau.
  • You must do so before the expiration date on your VISA stamp in your passport .
  • You can submit your paperwork 30 days before your Visa expires (Chiang Mai 45 days)

Documents Required for Retirement Visa Extension of Stay

A – Application For VISA form TM 7

B – One Passport Size Photo

C – Copy of your  Passport (every page)  Sign every page

D – Evidence of your address (rental agreement or Baan book)

E – Copy of  Bank statement.    Deposit verification letter from your bank (if already here) stating the balance of your savings account (800,000 Baht). Normal cost about 100 to 200 baht.  This letter must not be older than 7 days.
OR
A Notarized Affidavit of Income from your Embassy,  with a monthly salary of no less than 65,000 Baht (US cost  ($50)  US Form download form.  This form can not be older than 6 months
OR
Combination of Bank Account and Income over 12 months = 800,000 Baht
OR
If you are married to a Thai National you need an Income Certificate with a monthly salary of no less than 40,000 Baht.  A Thai Bank account showing a reasonable amount is also required.

If you are applying using 800,000 Baht+ to meet financial resources:

a. Subsequent (renewal) Application – Needs to show funds have been on deposit for at least 3 months before applying.

F – Copy of every page of your bank saving book for the past year (Sign every Page)  Some Immigration Offices may only require pages for 6 months

After you finish with the Immigration Officer, you will be directed to have your photograph taken and given a form to sign acknowledging that you understand the penalties of over staying.  The One year Extension of Stay is granted at the discretion of the immigration officer.  It is not a right, so dress well, smile and always when dealing with Thai officials be polite, calm and respectful.

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Married Couples: Documents required for a Spouse

If you are coming as a couple and both are over the age of 50, both people should apply for the retirement visa.  If the spouse will be accompanying him or her s does not qualify for the retirement visa (e.g. not age 50+ or age 50, but not enough income), the spouse will be considered for the Non-Immigrant Visa Type “O” or Temporary
Residents.  A copy of the Applicants marriage certificate (notarized) must be presented as supporting documentation.

Documents Required for Spouse:

  • VISA form TM 7
  • All the same documents you would submit for a “Retirement Visa” above
  • Plus your “Marriage Certificate” translated to Thai/English and Certified

Instead of a “Retirement Visa” the spouse will be considered for the Non-Immigrant Visa Type “O” or Temporary Resident.

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Retirement: How to Retire in Thailand

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Everything you need to know: How to Retire in Thailand

Thailand is fast becoming the number one choice for people wanting to retire, live a quality life and have their money stretch as far as is possible so that they can enjoy life in their golden years.

Thailand is a richly diverse country, offering regions with beautiful white sand beaches to mountain forests.  Offering large cities like Bangkok to the more quiet and relaxed Chiang Mai.   The following article is how Chiang Mai Buddy can assist you in the planning and execution of retiring in Chiang Mai, Thailand, but you can still use this information as a guide to retiring anywhere in Thailand

Why Retire in Chiang Mai?

Have a look how beautiful this city is.   Video: Chiang Mai – The Beauty of Diversity – from NOXimage

Obviously we here at Chiang Mai Buddy are biased towards retiring in in Chiang Mai.  Here the temperature is cooler, the city is smaller and easier to get around, property is cheap, there is amazing gardens, Temples, arts and crafts and a general more laid back and relaxed.  No beaches here, but also not many sexpats either. Chiang Mai is a comfortable base with an airport that has several daily flights all over Thailand and to other Asian countries. It is easy to use this city as your base if you decide you want to investigate other locations in Thailand.

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1) First Things First – Have you been to Thailand?

The most obviously benefit to Retiring in Thailand is that it is cheap.  But do not forget it is another country with a different culture.  The number one question you need to answer for yourself is …..

Do I like Thailand?

If you have been here for a holiday then you obviously know the answer to this question. If you are basing your entire choice of Thailand based on the internet, articles and media then you need to ensure that your expectations are as realistic as possible.  The Chiang Mai Buddy website is a good start.  Our blog posts and articles are pretty devoid of opinion and personal bias – they tend to just present the facts without attempting to color the information with a sales pitch.

Solution:

1) Come to Thailand on a Tourist Visa: Come as a Tourist and travel to a few cities you have narrowed down your selection to. Once you are here it is a simple process to apply for and get your Retirement Visa.

2) Take the Plunge: Apply for and get your Retirement Visa before you leave your own country. It is valid for a year and gives you the opportunity and freedom to base yourself in one location and visit other parts of the country. Renewing your Retirement Visa each year is easier than getting your initial one.

Considerations:

1) Less than 2% of Chiang Mai Buddies customers have decided that Chiang Mai is not the city for them.  Granted our customers have the added benefit of having friends the moment they arrive and we introduce them to other Expats and the local social community. Chiang Mai is the number one retirement city for a reason. It is a good choice to start.

2) Once you are here, any documents certified by a lawyer in your own country are useless.  The process for applying for a Retirement Visa in Thailand is different (and easier) than getting one before you arrive. In fact you do not even need to have the funds to retire.  We can provide you with an instant Retirement Visa for 35,000 Baht (includes a bank statement in your name with funds. All you need is your Passport and 2 Photos). If you have all your documentation and the money (doing it the official way) the fee is 6,000 Baht to process and obtain your Visa.

3) Book Accommodation before you Arrive.  We have an excellent selection of monthly apartments which we get for you at the same cash price as you would if you where here in person. When you order through us the Arrival Package is automatically added to your purchase, this includes picking you up from the airport, delivering you to your new temporarily home, a motorbike (if wanted) a Phone SIMcard, and of course instant access to people who know Chiang Mai.

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If you decide to choose Chiang Mai as your base location, we are in business to help assist people come and stay – but more importantly ENJOY Chiang Mai.  Once you arrive we continue to offer services that make living in Thailand easy and stress free. Social introductions, hiring a Thai speaking person to assist you, getting bank accounts, drivers license and so much more.  You can rely on us as we teach you how to become familiar and comfortable in your new country.

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2) The Retirement Visa.

The Retirement Visa is a pretty simple and easy process (once you know what you’re doing) – but the first time it can seem like a daunting process.  You have two primary options

Retirement Visa Options:

1) Apply from your Home Country: This allows you to have your Visa in your passport and from the moment you are here you can have access to the benefit of having a retirement Visa (Bank Accounts, Drivers License etc).

2) Apply from within Thailand: This option is much less stressful, because of the easy access to Visa agencies that can take care of everything for you.  Yes there is a fee attached to having the professional look after you, but like so many other things in Thailand – the cost is small.

Qualifying for a Retirement Visa in Thailand

Requirements for a Non Immigrant Visa ‘O-A” (Retirement)

  • Must be 50 years of age or over.
  • Passport (must have at least 1 year (18 months preferred) remaining until it expires
  • Holder of this type of visa is allowed to stay in Thailand for 1 year.
  • Holding the nationality or permanent residence of country of application
  • Proof of Financial requirement
  • Letter from Bank showing proof of deposits
  • Employment of any kind is strictly prohibited (including volunteer work).

Eligibility for Retirement Visa

  • Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).
  • Applicant not prohibited from entering the Kingdom as provided by the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979).
  • Having no criminal record in Thailand or in the country of his/her nationality, or the country of his/her residence.
  • Not having prohibitive diseases ( Leprosy, Tuberculosis, drug addiction, Elephantiasis, third phase of Syphilis) as indicated in the Ministerial Regulation No 14  B.E. 2535.
  • You must have at least 18 months validity on your current Passport

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Retirement VisaHow to get a Retirement Visa in Thailand
Step by Step Instructions to apply for your Retirement Visa
Get all the forms, know what documents you need and gain a better understanding of how to apply for a retirement visa to come and live in Thailand

 

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Retirement Visa Considerations:

1) Thailand Immigration want to ensure that people retiring in Thailand are also bringing their money in Thailand.  Once Expats would put the required amount of money into their bank account and apply for the Visa and remove the money.  Immigration decided (not yet undated on old blog post concerning the topic) to prevent this, your financial bank deposit needs to be in the bank for a two month period prior to applying for your Retirement Visa.

Another reason for having these funds is if you are require emergency medical treatment and you do not have funds in the Bank, the hospital will not perform the required treatment.  If you do not have the funds, there are services that have accounts with the 800k in them and are converted into your name and your application is processed.  All other documentation is taken care of for you – fee is 35,000 Baht (US$1020).  You should not consider this service unless you have complete medical insurance.

2) Obtaining a Retirement Visa from a Tourist Visa, needs to be done at an Embassy outside of Thailand (unless getting the aforementioned all-inclusive package).  You will have to reenter the country with your Retirement Visa if you decide to obtain one while already being in Thailand.

3) As mentioned in No 1 of the considerations, Thai Immigration have made some major changes since 2015 – most of which are to determine that people coming to Thailand can afford to live in Thailand.  While many Expats and Retirees living in Thailand are here because they are economically in hardship, You should seriously consider coming here if you do not have and are prepared to commit to the country the required 800,000 baht.

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We offer extensive help and assistance with Visa’s.  At Chiang Mai Buddy we do not process Visa applications ourselves, rather we work in conjunction with a few Visa companies.  This allows us to select from an unbiased position which of the various Visa companies can provide the best service for you. You pay us the same price as you would them, so you can be assured that what we offer fits into your unique situation.

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3) Cost of Living in Thailand?

While you are required to have assets each year of 800,000 baht (or 400,000 plus income of 2000 US$) in order to maintain your retirement Visa, you can live here quite comfortably for almost half of that.  The following tables come from numbeo.com and was taken from July 2015 for the City of Chiang Mai.  You can use the link to find out the costs of any other city you might be interested in.

Cost of Food in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of food in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of food in Thailand (Chiang Mai) in US Dollars

 Cost of General Living in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of General Living in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of General Living in Thailand (Chiang Mai) US Dollars

 Cost of Accommodation in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of Accommodation in Thailand (Chiang Mai)

Cost of Accommodation in Thailand (Chiang Mai) in US Dollars

Considerations for Cost of Living in Thailand:

1) Everything is much cheaper in Thailand except for imported beer, wine, and dairy products. Eating western food will cost you 2-3 times more than eating local food but is still affordable.

2) Your biggest expense will be your accommodation. In Thailand a Westerner can only own 49% of land, so unless or until you have a Thai Wife, most people choose to rent a condo or house or purchase a condo.  You can lease land that a property is located on for 30 years plus – but gifting property to dependents (unless they are Thai) is a difficult process and not worth considering for a few years after you arrive.

3) Renting a condo in the city areas will cost about the same as a 2-4 bedroom house in the countryside.  Property is incredibly cheap in comparison to the western world, but it is the location that is important.  Do not rush into getting permanent accommodation until you are familiar with the area.  Stay first for a month or so in a monthly apartment before committing to a longer term lease.

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4) Finding a Place to Live

Accommodation is very affordable in Thailand, especially in the Northern parts of the country in the cities of Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. Even in the tourist locations of Phuket and Pattaya the cost of renting a place to live is far less than you own country.  One thing to be aware of, is that most people live in Condo’s which range in size from 30 sq m (small) to 180 sq m (3 bedroom place).  Houses of course are as small or large as they would be in any country.  The following Blog Post details the steps and procedures of how to go about renting a place of your own.

However we strongly suggest you first live in a Monthly Apartment and get to know the areas around town for a month or two before you commit to a lease.

Another problem many people face is Thai Real estate agents.  Many are great, but (and this is a generalization), many also do not comprehend or understand what you are used too or how strongly you might want what you say you want.  Countless people who want to entertain and desire a western kitchen are shown place after place without one (because Thai’s eat out).  They ability to grasp your demands for a property to qualify as something you want to look at is not great.

You can look online and find many amazing places available to rent.  Only to find when you call that they have been rented already, or that they will be available in a month only to have the existing tenant stay on.  Thai people and many Thai agents tend to just leave their property listings on websites, which can make searching on your own a frustrating experience.

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How much does it cost to Lease a Condo in Chiang Mai?

A 30 sq.m Condo with kitchen and modern amenities will start at around 6000 baht (US$180), increasing in size to 45 sq.m you are looking in the 9000-12000 baht range. (US$270-360) per month.  Larger 80-120 sq.m 2 bedrooms places are around 18000-25000 baht (US$549-760).  One of the first things many new arrivals notice (especially from America) is how small the condos are here compared to where they are from.  You very quickly adapt and begin to enjoy the smaller units, with less cleaning required, ease of getting around from kitchen to bathroom etc.  Price will often depend on the extra facilities of the condo, Gyms, Pools, Massage and location will all add to the price.

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A 2 bedroom 100 sq.m Condo with style will cost about 20,000 per month

Chiang Mai Condo

45 sq.m modern unit will cost between 10,000-12,000 baht per month

Chiang Mai Condo for rent

A Condo like this will be about 8000 baht per month

How much does it cost to Rent a House in Chiang Mai?

Houses are available in the inner suburbs and city itself, and these tend to be older (often Thai style) and can start from as low as 5000 baht maybe 8000 baht for a two bedroom.  The further out you go the bigger and newer the houses become with more western features. Many expats decide that they want to rent a house in a Moo Baan (gated community) which are usually located in the Hang Dong and surrounding areas.  Older styled houses are found closer to the city areas (and also outside the city) which are smaller and basic sometimes with a yard, but usually close to the neighbors.

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A newer 3-4 bedroom house can be found as low as 9,000 baht but generally 15,000 plus

Rent House in Chiang Mai

Older styled houses, 1-2 bedrooms can be found from 8000 baht

Solutions for Finding Accommodation:

1) Rent a Monthly Apartment First: Many people choose to stay in a Hotel or resort for there first week and then rush into signing a lease without knowing the city.  So many people find a place close to where they first arrived in Thailand only to find later that they are miles away from the area they prefer or people they later meet.  If you are coming to Chiang Mai, we have a selection of 20 places we have selected (having looked at over 80 personally).  You can look for yourself at the Monthly Accommodation in Chiang Mai

2) Get a Western Real Estate Agent: The effort you use to find a western or western thinking real estate agent will pay you many times over in results.  Don’t worry, it will cost you nothing, agents take their payment from commission in the lease (you might pay a little more over finding a place yourself – but you do not waste your time looking at property not available)

Considerations for Finding Accommodation:

1) Many people find the idea of a smaller accommodation than they are used too, is not their first choice; until they try it.  In Thailand you just do not need to have a huge kitchen (cooking at home costs more than eating out) and lets face it when you are retired you just do not need to have all that extra room for family and friends to stay with you.

2) Renting vs Buying?  On average if you purchase a property and rent it, it might take 15-30 years before you start to get a return on your investment depending on the location.  In addition it is difficult to transfer the title of the property to someone outside of Thailand so it might just be the case that the Thai Government takes over your assets if you die.  Consider renting!  The cost is low, you have spent your life saving and buying that house, which you just sold to retire in another country.

3) Do Not … Do Not … Do Not get a place sight unseen for any reason.  It does not matter if you have fallen in love online and have decided to move to the beautiful countryside to buy a house for the person you love (and maybe not met). It does not matter what you have read online (including this website) …. maybe the only reason you would do this is if you already have a friend and you want to live close to them.  The number one reason we get customers at Chiang Mai Buddy, is because they read online somewhere how easy things where to do … abc and came here to find out this was not the case.

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One of our prime functions is to provide budget monthly accommodation in the most desirable area of Chiang Mai.  In addition we offer our Thai staff to call and negotiate leases on your behalf (prices tend to go up if a westerner is calling) and an American owned Real Estate agent who can find you exactly what you are looking for.  In short we have all your accommodation options covered.
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5) Health Care and Insurance

As with most living costs in Thailand your medical treatment and Insurance is not only incredibly low, it is of such high standard that Thailand is a top location for Medical Holidays.  In all major cities there are Hospitals that tend to place the westerner in the priority queue (while we pay very little, we pay more than Thai’s on Social Security systems).

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While medical treatment and dentistry is remarkable affordable in Thailand, so to in the insurance policies that cover your costs. The major benefit of having insurance based in Thailand is that it comes with your own agent who will go and take care of everything on your behalf. This saves money!!

When a westerner is taken to hospital, or admits themselves, the assumption is that we all have financial resources in abundance.  The treatment reflects this, and more than is required is usually done.  Wonderful if you have the money, you will get treated as if you where the President and then be amazed at how little it cost you compared to home.

When you have an Insurance agent, they are called (because they are paying) and the agent will go to visit you. More importantly they will find out about your condition and tell the hospital what tests and treatments they will get paid to do.  Your Insurance agent knows what is needed and what is not and your premiums remain low because of non excessive use.  This is very important as you are older and are likely to require medical treatment more often than you used to.

Solutions for Health Care and Insurance:

1) Get Basic Travel Insurance from Home: Insurance is cheaper here, you do not need to cover yourself for everything before you come, much better to get basic flight and travel insurance for a couple of months and then purchase insurance after you are in Thailand.

2) Register with a Local Hospital: Each Hospital has a membership or registration card – get one.  It costs nothing or very little and contains your history and can have our medical records transferred from your home country.

Considerations for Health Care and Insurance:

1) Driving in Thailand is a completely different set of mental dynamics.  If you are going to ride a motorcycle here, the long and short of it is, at some point you will have an accident.  It pays to have insurance because no matter who is or was at fault it is ALWAYS the Westerner who will end up paying.  Local Insurance covered both you, and the other person for medical bills and replacement of the bike

2) The last thing you want if you are in Hospital in Thailand is someone from your home countries Insurance company trying to speak to someone who may or may not speak English to discuss payment and treatment.  In fact usually you are required to pay cash and claim later.  If you are living here – don’t rely on insurance from another country – no matter how good your past history with them has been.

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If you are planning on Retiring in Chiang Mai, we have extensively searched and found the best providers we can find with our local knowledge.  This includes a wonderful Insurance agent who can find a policy to meet almost any budget.  Let us provide you with an introduction to this agent who has national and multinational insurance policies she can provide at low prices.
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5) Social Life and Friends

Of course it goes without saying that a major component of how much you enjoy life, is who you have to enjoy it with.  The Expat community is large in Thailand and almost every city will have an Expat Club, Facebook groups for Expats, Retirees and generally what is happening in your chosen city.

Unless you are wanting to disappear and avoid people, you would do well to join and check out a few Facebook groups in the cities you are thinking about and the Number One forum website ThaiVisa.com 

It is a mistake to come solely because you have fallen in love online.  It is even more of a mistake to decide to live in a rural province because your new girlfriend wants you to be close to her family.  You are going to miss the comforts and security of the familiar – even if this is just hearing the same types of accents you have done in the past.

Make sure that there is a community that reflects what you are used too.  If you are Greek, see if there are Greek people who meet and organize events. Same for German, Dutch and so on.  Most retirees in Thailand are American, British and Australians.  In some regions in South of Thailand there is a big Russian element, but not so much up in the Northern parts.

Considerations for Social Life and Friends

1) If you have been to Thailand and/or have friends here already, this is less of a problem.  If you belong to a smaller community and your own food, music and traditions are important to you, it would pay to investigate where there is already a community of people like yourself.

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We have as part of our service an Expat Relocation Tour, which shows you the places to shop, get medicines, eat and drink with other people also here in Chiang Mai.  In addition our Facebook Page, lists events from all over Chiang Mai to inform you what is happening.  And we of course have the occasional dinner party inviting our old and new customers to meet socially.
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Conclusion

Thailand is a wonderful place to retire, with Chiang Mai being the most popular location for many people. If you wish to consider Chiang Mai as a location, we here at Chiang Mai Buddy offer a range of affordable services to make this as easy and as stress free as possible.

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How to do Thai Visa run to Vientiane Laos

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How to do: Thai Visa run to Vientiane, Laos

Step by step instructions, photos and the costs involved to get a Visa from the Thai Embassy in Vientiane, Laos

Going to Vientiane in Laos is by far and away the most common Visa Run used by people wishing to extend their stay in Thailand. This article will deal mostly with folks wanting to do this trip from Chiang Mai, but equally as easy is flying from Bangkok direct to Vientiane.

After nearly 20 ‘how to’ blog posts at Chiang Mai Buddy, this is the first time I am going to interject my personal opinion – rather than attempt to just give the facts.  If you are an older person, or over 6 foot, or find it difficult to sleep in minivans or seated up-right … or unless you are absolutely broke and on a budget – TAKE A PLANE!  I have done this Visa Run 2 times now over the last few years using a van service and each time was an uncomfortable ride with no sleep.  The advantage of using Aya Service to do this trip is that they held your hand all the way to the Thai Embassy.  After July 2015 this will no longer be the case.  Your Minivan ride will be from one Aya depot to another.

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In a Nutshell

bullet-greenGet to the Town of Nong Khai then to the Boarder
bullet-green1st Stop: Depart Thailand (Free)
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2nd Stop: Get your Laos Visa (US$30-35)
bullet-green3rd Stop: Thai Embassy (8.30am-12.00pm)
bullet-greenGo and find your Accommodation in Vientiane

bullet-greenNext day after 1.30 Get Visa from Embassy

bullet-greenTake bus back to Nong Khai
bullet-greenLeave Laos (15,000 Kip at Boarder)
bullet-greenEnter Thailand (Free)
bullet-greenGet back home!

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1: Get Yourself to Nong Khai

A visa run from Chiang Mai or Bangkok, Thailand to Vientiane, Laos can be done via minivan (visa run service) bus and/or airplane.  It is approximately 700 km to the Thai border town of Nong Khai from both these cities, and overland these trips are done overnight (to arrive when the Embassy is open during the morning to accept applications).

Visa run services usually leave about 7pm and arrive at their depot the next morning at 5.30am to 6am.  Bus services traditionally take an entire night of travel (12 hours), and Flights take about an hour or so.  If flying from Bangkok you arrive directly at Vientiane Airport, and if flying from Chiang Mai you land at Undon Thani and take an hour bus trip to Nong Khai.

Check and Book Tickets via Train, Bus and Plane to Nong Khai
You can also book Aya Services Minivan whose office is located just a 5 minute walk to the Boarder crossing and Immigration.  If you don’t know this you might be tempted to pay for a Tuk Tuk but it is an easy enough walk.  Aya will provide you with a Laos Visa application (requiring one passport photo) and take you to the first stop off point. Visa Run by Air Flying will is about twice as much as taking a bus, but is over in one hour and allows you to arrive fresh and ready.  Different airlines offer different times and flying from Chiang Mai you can only go to Nong Khai. Flights from Bangkok go straight to Vientiane. NOTE: If you fly to Bangkok first (or flying from Bangkok) then you get your customs and entry done at the airport and can skip to point 4 Typically Nok Airways have a great deal on airfare, and you fly from Chiang Mai’s CNX airport to Udon Thani’s UTH airport in about an hour. From there you take a ride to Nong Khai, cross the border and catch another songthaew into Vientiane which is another 30 minutes. If you do not use Aya services you can download your Laos Visa on Arrival Form from us here at Chiang Mai Buddy

Aya Services at Nong Khai

Waiting for the Freedom Bridge to open at Aya Services in Nong Khai

2: Getting to the Immigration Checkpoints

The Nong Khai Customs and Boarder Post is right at the beginning of your trip.  On the right hand side is your exit point from Thailand.  This consists of a few booths with Immigration Officers who will inspect your departure card and stamp you out of Thailand.  Then you cross the road to the Lao Visa point to apply for and get your Visa.

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The Laos Immigration Windows – where you get your Visa to Enter Laos

At the Laos side you will need:
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Lao Visa Exemption

Lao visas are not required for citizens of many countries. The following countries will have to apply for a Visa before getting to the Immigration Checkpoint.

  1. Afghanistan
  2. Algeria
  3. Bangladesh
  4. Burundi
  5. Cameroon
  6. Congo
  7. Cote d’Ivoire
  8. Ghana
  9. Guinea
  10. Guinea Bissau
  11. Jordan
  12. Lesotho
  13. Liberia
  14. Libya ( Libyan Arab Jamahiriya )
  15. Mozambique
  1. Nauru
  2. Niger
  3. Nigeria
  4. Pakistan
  5. Senegal
  6. Sierra Leone
  7. Sri Lanka
  8. Suriname
  9. Syria ( Syrian Arab republic)
  10. Swaziland
  11. Tonga
  12. Turkey
  13. Zambia
  14. Zimbabwe

Lao Visa Costs

Below is a list of visa fee for different countries. If your country is not on the list, it probably costs you $US30 to get the visa or you’re not eligible for getting Laos visa on arrival.

Country Price (US Dollar)
Australia 30
Canada 42
China 20
India 40
Sweden 31
USA 35
UK 35
Others 30

 

Procedure to Get Visa on Arrival at Lao-Thai Friendship Bridge

It’s pretty easy to get the Lao visa on arrival at the Friendship bridge.  Windows are numbered so just go in sequential order 1-2-3.

Step 1: Get Visa application form at window #1, and fill it out. (although if you are reading this you will have downloaded the form and have it ready)

Step 2: Return the completed form with 1 or 2 passport type photos and visa fee, plus over time if you arrive out side working hours, on weekend or Lao public holidays, to the official at window #1 or window #2 if it is active, and wait to be called.

Step 3: When you’re called, collect your passport with the visa, at window #3 around the corner. Make sure you KEEP your departure sheet for exiting Laos.

This will take 10-15 minutes.  If you go before opening hours (which most tours will do) there is an extra $1 fee for making the staff start working early.

3: Getting to the Thai Embassy and Applying for your Visa

Once you have your Visa you walk 50 meters towards the Laos entry point, show your Passport and Visa to the Immigration staff and walk out to the chaos of drivers trying to get your fare into town.

If you are using Aya Services they provide a ride. You will as a group be guided along together and put into a seated truck.  If you are doing it on your own, you will negotiate with the driver or taxi to take you into Vientiane and the Thai Embassy.  Almost everybody crossing into Laos is heading to the Thai Embassy so don’t worry too much about how to get there.  Everybody knows.

Procedure to Get Thai Visa at the Thai Embassy in Vientiane

The Vientiane Royal Thai Embassy (Consular) location is at:

No.15 Ban Ponesinuan, Bourichane Road, Vientiane Capital
(Map)

Consular Section
Monday to Friday
08.30 hrs.–12.00 hrs. Application for Visa
13.00 hrs.–15.00 hrs. Distribution of Passports

Weekly Holiday
Saturday – Sunday

Warning:  In the last 6 months Immigration have tightened up.  As politically incorrect as it is to say, many dark or black skinned people (from certain countries I assume not including United States or the G7) and people dressed in scruffy attire are being denied. Basically Spiritual travelers and Black people are going to have a more difficult time.

Having said this, I myself went to Vientiane on 1st July 2015 and did not see any discrimination and a few dreadlock baggy pant lip pierced people also applying and getting their Visa’s.

Step 1: When you arrive line up with the 50-200 other people in the cue.  I have been on a Monday (busy) and a Tuesday (not busy).  The doors will open and on the busy days you are given a number.  On the non busy days you will line up at the document checking table.

Step 2: Your application and Documents will be checked.  Currently the Thai Embassy website for Vientiane is a mess, and the Visa Application form available on their site is wrong.  The new form is here.  You will need …


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‘s (Take extra just in case)
bullet-greenVisa Application Form (Here)
bullet-greenFee 1000-2000 Baht (depending on what Visa you are applying for

Step 3: When your documents are checked you will be given a number.  You sit and wait until that number is called.

Step 4: When your number is called you approach the window and hand over your documents.  Your bill will be stapled to the 2nd copy of your passport.

Step 5: Go inside the building to the cashier and pay – you are all done

Now head into Vientiane and find your Accommodation

4: Getting your processed Visa back

The Thai Embassy open for document retrieval at from 1-3pm.  Once you get yourself back to the Embassy (it is a 30 minute slow stroll from where most people stay) or about 100-130 baht for a Tuk Tuk.

Thai Embassy Laos

Wait until your number is called and pick up your Passport with Visa

Step 1: You will on your receipt have your number allocated.  Once the Embassy opens, follow the crowd and go and take a seat.  Depending on the day you will either pick up your passport at the window outside or be sent into the Building where you paid.

Step 2: Get your passport and head back across the boarder 🙂  Easy Peasy

5: Getting Back to Thailand

If you are flying via Bangkok, you just need to get to the airport and do the normal process with Customs and Immigration at the Airports.  If you are taking the bus, minivan service or flying from Udon Thani then you need to get back across the Freedom Bridge.

The easiest and cheapest way is to take the International Bus service.  From the Embassy the Bus terminal is a 10 minute walk or an negotiated taxi ride.  When I did it, we convinced a few people to take this method and shared a Taxi for 40 baht per person.  The only reason you should not use this method is if you want to buy Duty Free at Laos.  The bus is a quick and easy point to point trip.

Bus Terminal Laos

Get yourself to the Market Bus Terminal and get the 15,000 Kip International Trip

Step 1: Get yourself to the Market Bus Terminal and buy the 10,000 Kip (42 Baht) Ticket from Vientiane to Nong Khai.  The Bus runs every 30 minute to hour (depending on the time of day) and gets you right across the Freedom Bridge stopping off at both Immigration check points.

Laos Market Bus Terminal

Buying your Ticket on the Bus ride to Nong Khai

Step 2: The Bus will pull up to the Laos Customs and Immigration point. After 4pm Laos Immigration will want you to purchase a exit Ticket (12,000 Kip) which is a card you use to go through the barrier after getting your exit stamp. Go through the Laos Immigration Stand, then through the barrier and back on to the Bus.

Laos Checkpoint

Paying to Exit Laos (12,000 Kip)

Step 3: Next Stop the Thai Immigration Boarder.  You will get off the Bus and fill in your new arrival and departure cards and go through the Thai Immigration and Customs point.

Laos to Nong Khai

Step 4: Congratulations you are now back in Thailand.  If you are using Aya services you can walk back in 10 minutes or pay 20-100 baht (depending on your negotiation skills and time of day) to get back to Aya and ready for your trip back to Chiang Mai. If you are heading on to Udon Thani to the Airport or Bus ride back to Chiang Mai, then get back on the bus which will take you to the Bus Station.

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23 Reasons to Retire in Chiang Mai Thailand

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How to Retire in Chiang Mai, Thailand & Live on $1000 a Month

Yes it can be done!  That’s how cheap Retirement in Chiang Mai Thailand can be.  One of the growing concerns for people approaching retirement age, is that the pension is just not enough for many people to live well in their own countries.  For many people they are just no longer happy with what is happening at home, with changing political and economic trends.  For some, now is the time to take advantage of all their spare time and explore more interesting and exotic places.  What ever your reason to look at Retirement – Chiang Mai is one place that should be at the top of your location list.

Whether you are thinking of retiring as a couple, or you are now on your own and the idea of a beautiful and younger companion who shares the values and beliefs you grew up with is appealing – Chiang Mai in Thailand has it all.  A great location for couples and single people alike, with so many things to do to keep you busy and still allow you to live in a style surpassing what you could at home.

Have a quick Look at what Chiang Mai Offers Retirees

 Video courtesy of the Chiang Mai Expats Club

How to Qualify to Retire in Thailand (Retirement Visa)

To qualify is actually pretty easy, and listed below.  For full details you can read the article on How to get a Retirement Visa for Thailand. 

50 years of age
Passport with 18 months left before expiring
Proof of Funds 800,000 Baht or US$ 25,000 or
Proof of income 60,000 Baht a month or US$2,000
Combination of Savings and Income
Fee 1900 Baht (US$60)

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What makes Chiang Mai so appealing to Retire?

I think it is a fair assumption to make that this article is not the first time you have heard of Chiang Mai, nor will it be the first time you have read about this beautiful northern city either.  Chiang Mai already has a reputation for being a retirement heaven, with many business’s, clubs and societies created by and for the retired expat.

Not only is everything here, ready and waiting for you to partake in, it is easily able to be done on even the tightest budget.  You can live an active and interesting life here for as little as $1000 a month.  Of course if you have more savings and greater income – you will be able to retire in a manner you may have only once dreamed about.

However, this beautiful city is not ideal for everybody, and it is highly recommended that you come for a holiday first, stay a month or two and test out Chiang Mai as well as other cities in Thailand.  If you decide to do this, then we at Chiang Mai Buddy specialize in finding you Accommodation cheaper than anywhere else you will find online and provide you with a Tour of the best locations for you to visit on a regular basis.

So… let’s examine some of the reasons you should absolutely consider Chiang Mai as a location to retire.

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1) Chiang Mai City itself

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Chiang Mai means “New City”, yet is over 700 years old, and has an important role in Thailand’s history.  It is located in the northern part of Thailand, in the mountain area, and is the largest and most important city in this region. Chiang Mai is said to have a population of 160,000 but this consists only of the old city (walled center of town) when combining the several other areas around the city itself boosts a population of over 1 million.  At rough estimates there are some 40,000 expats living within Chiang Mai itself.

map_thailandChiang Mai is large enough to contain several golf courses, hundreds of spas, thousands of restaurants, and places to get a massage are always within a stones throw away.  There are also over 300 Temples – all working and operational with Monks, several large shopping malls and almost everything you could desire. Yet Chiang Mai is small enough to be able to easily drive, ride a motorcycle or get the famous Tuk Tuk’s to get out and about.

Chiang Mai city is a combination of modern and 700 years of history.  It is a rich and vibrant tourist center, with many well known areas, activities and shopping opportunities.  It also has the hidden out of the way gems that your fellow expats will delight in showing you.

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2) Cost of Living in Chiang Mai

Cost of living in Chiang Mai Thailand

Front page of the Nomad List website .. says it all

One of the biggest attractions of Chiang Mai, Thailand is the cost of living. The Nomad List website, which compares the cost of living and quality of life of cities around the world, rank Chiang Mai as one of the cheapest places to be. While this website is for the younger traveler it’s economic breakdown of hundreds of locations makes for interesting reading.  This cheap cost of living is supported by International Living, a subscription based retirement community both online and in magazine form.  Many articles and retirement companies do cost of living vs quality of life locations, Chiang Mai is always in the top 5.

You can live here on an extreme budget, choosing accommodation like Siriruk Apartment for less than $100 a month. Or for $500 stay in a fully serviced Hotel like the Victoria.  If you decide to stay here longer, you save even more, able to rent a budget 30-45 square meter condo apartment from around 4000-7000 Baht (If you are staying here longer, you are able to lease a condo (usually 6 months minimum but can sometimes you can find one for 3 months) and save even more.  To buy your own condo you would start at around US$25,000 for a basic unit (35-45 sq.m) and more realistically for 80-100 sq.m and two bedrooms looking at around US$50k +.  Houses can be purchased for 50k and beyond.  Of course depending on how old you are (let’s be realistic here), you can rent your accommodation for 30 years before you would spend what it would cost to purchase.

The one downside is that a non Thai can not own more than 49% of the land a property sites on, for this reason many couples buy condos (you can own these 100%), or wait until they marry a local before purchasing a house. To get an idea of the type and quality of condo rental or home purchase you can expect for the price have a look at this local real estate agency

A Motorbike rental can start as low as $60 a month, but beware, this will be a low quality bike. Most likely older, 100 cc manual motorcycle. You are much better off spending $90-100 and get a newer 125cc bike large enough and with enough power for the western frame.  Food in a Thai Thai (the word to explain a typical local place) restaurant starts at 25 baht and seldom goes past 40 (US 75 cents to $1.20). Most people tend to go to the local places in more urban areas where you are looking at US$1-2 for a meal. Western food usually cost more, but still much cheaper than is typical in your home country. Although you will generally find eating out is cheaper than cooking food yourself at home.

You can live in Chiang Mai for about $500 a month. You will live well for $1000

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3) The Expat and Social Community

Chiang Mai has an incredible amount of open social network groups that are always providing something to do.  The social communities in Chiang Mai, provide information on “how to…”, “where to…” and “when to…”; and arrange for group outings as well as hold there own social events.

Westerners in Chiang Mai, have over years built social and entertainment networks that allow you to do something new almost everyday.  . Lana Cricket have used the Gymkhana sports grounds for over 50 years, providing a wide variety of tennis, golf, cricket and other sporting and social events.

Expats having fun in Chiang Mai

Perhaps the best of all of the communities is the Chiang Mai Expat Club, which holds a variety of Scheduled Events and Activities. The Expat Club is a one off 1000 baht membership (US$32) and is an open resource of many business that specialize in the Expat and Retired person. Not to mention the fantastic breakfasts and meals they put on at there social events.  The Chiang Mai Expat group really is your one stop shop to a new social network and introduction to people who have been where you where and now openly sharing their wisdom and knowledge.

Some of the Many Social Networks available in Chiang Mai For more check out our Resources

I Love Chiang Mai – We all love Chiang Mai – there is a great files section with loads of information. This is a secret group, you will need a friend who is a member add you

Chiang Mai Events – it’s usually here if it is happening in Chiang Mai.

Whats Happening Chang MaiThe primary focus of ‘What’s happening in Chiang Mai’ is to provide to voice to those connected to Burma and social justice issues generally. We welcome posts that are of value to the audience advertising events, and important news affecting our community.

What, Where, When Chiang Mai – A page for people, event organizers, promoters, bar owners, club owners to let everyone know what’s happening in Chiang Mai. Feel free to add people to the group, the more people on here the more we’ll know what’s happening in and around Chiang Mai

Chiang Mai – For people wanting to come to or already living or just interested in Chiang Mai

TEDx Chiang Mai – Chiang Mai’s affiliated TEDx talks

Farang Community Chiang Mai – An ask and you shall receive group for foreign nations in Chiang Mai.

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thumbs upChiang Mai Buddy Advantage
Of course if you are coming to Chiang Mai, you have your own buddy that for a very small fee will help you with anything you need assistance with.  Until you get your bearings and can navigate around yourself, we are here to help you find a place to live, show you around and assist you in whatever way we can.

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4) Cheap Medical Providers

Chiang Mai RAM Hospital

Thailand is well known as a medical vacation location, because the medical treatment is first rate at a fraction of the cost of where you are living now.  Medical and Dental treatment is affordable as is cosmetic surgery, in fact everything is affordable, including the health insurance for living here full time.

A dental clean is about 600 baht, x-rays only 800 baht, ($17-22), a visit to a Doctor for medical checkups are around 200 baht ($7) and medical certificates for the various documentations you will need are 50-100 baht ($3). Insurance? around 20,000 baht per year will get you  a premium health insurance policy with Bupa Blue Cross

The cost of hospitalization for a private ward would start around 2,000 baht per day. Many expensive medicines are reproduced in generic form locally (or from India) and provided considerably cheaper. You can of course still get the branded medicines if you wish.

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5) In-house Nurse Aid or Retirement community

If your health is already requiring a little more attention, or the need arises to go into a care facility, Chiang Mai has you covered here as well.  You can hire your own nurse or care giver on a short time or live in position for about 15,000 baht per month.  Retirement communities here, are luxury palaces, providing accommodation, meals, doctors, nurses, social outings and in patient facilities for about US$2000 per month – everything covered.

Have a look at the promotional video for one such Care community right here in Chiang Mai.

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6) The People of Chiang Mai

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The Hill Tribe People of Chiang Mai

Because of it’s northern location, Chiang Mai is influenced by the ‘Lanna’ and Hill Tribe tradition and people, who remain a popular influence on the local traditions and values of the city.  The Lanna heritage takes shape all over the city in the forms of language, clothing, art, architecture, music, food, and more. The people here often still wear the local clothing, which may be dyed cobalt blue or an array of other colors. Another characteristic of Lanna that people notice immediately is the volume of artistry the culture is infused with. Chiang Mai has long been an arts center with areas like the Baan Tawai wood carvers’ enclave, and the Bor Sang umbrella-making village.

If you are the type of person who thrives of arts and crafts, no where else in Thailand (possibly Asia) boosts so many factories and entire villages dedicated to arts. You can visit workshops where you can learn about the production of silk or silver, and purchase memorable, hand-crafted souvenirs.

Chiang Mai Lana People

Chiang Mai Lana People

The presence of numerous hill tribes that feature a wealth of unique cultures enhances Chiang Mai’s distinctive diversity. Hill tribe trekking, often combined with river rafting and elephant riding has always been one of Chiang Mai’s greatest tourist attractions.

Thailand is promoted as the land of smiles, and never more than in Chiang Mai. The people are friendly and helpful and honest! The locals here are not (unlike other parts of Asia) always looking for a way to get something from the westerner and tourist. Locals will help you in times of need, and some of the sweetest natures in the world are possessed by the women here.  One of the greatest things about being in Chiang Mai is that you do not have to always be on guard that your wallet is about to be taken advantage of.

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7) Non Sex-Tourist Atmosphere

Chiang Mai is a traditional city, populated with many migrants from the rural areas of Thailand as noted above. These people have traditional and high values, and Chiang Mai is NOT what you might expect about Thailand from watching movies. Here (unlike other parts of Thailand and Asia) you will not see the 70 year old man holding hands with a young child of 20 that he refers to s his “girl friend”.  Yes this is Thailand, and there are parts of the city you can visit if you are feeling ‘lonely’ – but for the most part the people that stay here in Chiang Mai have higher morals and codes of behaviors from the sex tourist.

Chiang Mai is also a relaxed city. Things happen here at a slower pace, and no one is really in a hurry. The city is big enough and caters for most people and most tastes, but lacks the zoom zoom speed of other Asian cities. Some people find this slower pace, and lack of sexual promiscuity is not for them.  Those that choose to live here do not mind at all and are rather happy about other cities providing these services.  While it is common for a man to have a much younger Thai partner, people who openly flaunt the importance (to them) of the sexual aspect of their relationship – seldom find like minded companions to hang out with in Chiang Mai.

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8) Beautiful Younger Woman who wants Love

If you are a older single man with moderate resources then you are likely to find a partner here who is attractive and younger than you.  You should know before you come How to Date Thai Women because the attitudes and culture make for some compromise in the type of expectations that a relationship with a Thai lady will bring.

Thai women are traditional, they reflect the values of the generations that many people grew up in and feel more comfortable in. A Thai girl friend or wife will take care of the house, cook and clean and dote on you like no other women from western cultures will do.  Men and Women have roles here, the man is to protect and provide, and the women is to take care of her family.  You can personally disagree with this cultural aspect of Thailand, and it is possible to meet a more modern thinking lady for a relationship.  Remember you are the one moving here, some of your attitudes and ways of looking at things will need to be flexible.

Be aware than a Thai women will always put her parents and the Royal Family above you.  You marry the family when you marry the lady, and you will be expected to help the family out if required (this means financially).  But if you are a good person, someone who shows respect and kindness, in times of your own ill health, you will be repaid back with a generosity and care that is beyond what most people can imagine.

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9) Availability and Quality of Accommodation

Chiang Mai city is growing. From almost any view in any Condo or monthly rental accommodation you will see new accommodation buildings going up. Long term condo leasing (6-12 months) is easily found, shorter term (3 months) more difficult but not impossible. For the short term visit it is better to find accommodation at a monthly apartment complex.

There are a range of websites that cater to your need to rent a house or condo. Discounted prices for longer term leases is common.  In the heart of the city, prices are a little higher, if you wanted to live a little further out (10 km or so) you can find a beautiful new (often fully furnished) 3 bedroom house for the same price as an inner city condo – starting around 8000-9000 baht (US$ 250) per month. If you do not mind an older place, you can easily find a 2 bedroom house for around 6000 baht (US$180)

Many developments have been created with enclosed gated communities that are heavily populated by Expats and Retired couples, singles and mixed relationships.  There is absolutely no shortage of quality homes in amazing surroundings

You can search yourself at two of the more popular places
Chiang Mai Properties
DD Properties

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thumbs upChiang Mai Buddy Advantage
Many of the best deals available come from local people whose command of English is not great (such as the places listed at the DD Properties website).  We can help you arrange to visit and look around properties, negotiate the price and contract details and then act as an intermediate for TV, Internet and should you need to talk to your landlord in the future.

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10) Fantastic Weather

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From November to February the weather in Chiang Mai is perfect. Clear blue skies with 30°C temperatures and low humidity during the day and lower temperatures at night. Around March the temperature starts to get hotter, but Chiang Mai being located in the mountains is always a few degrees C lower than anywhere else in Thailand and most places in Asia.

The rainy season starts around May and sometimes goes until October. The rain usually happens once or twice a day for 30-60 minutes. And it is a downpour!. You will have about 30 minutes warning as the dark clouds roll in and 10 minutes before it starts the wind picks up. If you are under cover the refreshing breeze and cooler temps are a welcome visitor. During the rainy seasons (really it should be referred to as the daily hour of rain) the surrounding area of Chiang Mai is beautiful.

Day trips, and rides to see the tourists spots or just to go on an adventure, will offer some of the best photos you will ever have the privileged of taking. Worse case (because you do not want to ride in the rain) is that for 30-60 minutes you will have to stop off and sit back and relax at a cafe along your trip.

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11) Worlds Best Food

Chiang Mai Street Food
Thai food is amazing, and here in Chiang Mai it is at least 1/5th of the price you would pay back home, and much less if going to a fancy eatery.. Food stalls and markets are found all over the city where you can sample local dishes for $1 a meal. Well known Thai favorites like pad Thai and green curry are readily available, and Chiang Mai is famous for its local specialty Khao Soi.

If you decide to attend a cooking school (around $30 for a half to full day) you will discover the secret to Khao Soi (OK, OK it is a Thai red curry with Indian curry powder mixed in) Vegetarians are extremely well catered for (Thais often go meatless in their meals for special Buddha events). When you tire of Thai food, there are hundreds of restaurants that cater for every other taste. Indian, Mexican, Greek – you name it, Chiang Mai has an expat who has decided to open it. For more details Where to find Western Food in Chiang Mai

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12) Cheap Fresh Produce

If you decide you want to cook for yourself (and most people give up on this idea after a week or two of living here because it IS cheaper to eat out) then the local markets in Chiang Mai are for you. Lower prices than the supermarkets and full of local and imported foods from other regions of Thailand – the local markets are a busy and popular place with the locals.

The Markets can be slightly overwhelming for the new arrival, (we offer a quick lesson on how to go and purchase produce included with the Expat Tour) – but you will soon get the hang of it. One of the Kings projects was to help the farmers convert from growing drugs to growing food. Farmers where taught how to grow particular crops and shown how to do it well. The end result is an abundance of both tropical and native fruits and vegetables that you are used too at home.

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13) Beautiful Scenery and Landscapes

Chiang Mai Scenery

Chiang Mai is located in the North of Thailand, in the Mountains. This is not the place to live if you can not live without the beach.  (although check out the cheap transport section – it costs nothing to get away for the week).  There are many places and pools for swimming, but this is mountain country, full of lush forests, mountains, old villages, rice fields, elephants, gardens, lakes, caves, temples, national parks and more.

Just a short drive outside of Chiang Mai is another world. Forrest with Elephants, Monkeys, rice paddy’s, coffee plantations, mist steeped mountains, lakes … the list goes on and on.  The Thai Queen had an avid interest in gardens and there are many “Queens Gardens” spread around the province. Even for the die hard adventure fan, there is something truly relaxing about sipping coconut milk next to lush and exotic species of plants, that flower and bloom under the cover of cooling tropical shade.

The scenery both natural and created over centuries along side of Temples by monks and villages is breathtaking and mesmerizing. Don’t take my word for it, have a look at the amazing photographs when you just do a Google image search for Chiang Mai.

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14) The Temples

Temples and scenery of Chiang Mai

Chiang Mai has Temples! Estimates vary but around 300 seems to be the usual quoted number.  There are large temples, gold temples, silver temples, old ruins that are still in operation, temples for a particular village.  If taking photos of golden laced statues surrounded by orange and red clothed monks of all ages is your thing – you could spend months going to different places everyday. If you are up in the early hours you will frequently see monks collecting elms along the side of the roads, monks traveling in public transport … monks monk monks!  They are everywhere and widely valued and respected by the people of Chiang Mai.

Thai culture is also valued very highly here in Chiang Mai, much more so that other major cities in Thailand.  Thailand and indeed Chiang Mai is relatively free from western religion, (although there are churches here); instead the vast majority of people (99%) are Buddhist and this culture is loudly and proudly displayed during the day to day activities of the people.  The Temples are the central focus for this culture and often the beginning and end place for Thai people to seek answers to any problems they have.

For we westerners, each is a magnificent reminder that we are indeed in another world.  And your friends and family will be envious of the amazing photographs you send home or put on Facebook.

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15) The Holidays & Festivals

Loy Krathong in Chiang Mai

The culture in Chiang Mai is vibrant and often celebrated. Festivals and Public Holidays are times when the Locals, Expats and tourists alike relax, take time off and enjoy the many colorful and exotic experiences. In particular Songkran (April 13-16) and Loy Kratong (Nov 25) are two events that draw overseas tourists and Thai’s from other regions of the country. These are two events that should be on everyone bucket list!

Thai people generally believe that life brings with it, a fair share of misery – and they take each and every opportunity to take a break from this and celebrate happiness. This is represented by the many may festivals and celebrations. Each of them a spectacular event to watch or partake in.  The only downside is that on special days alcohol will not be sold, so you need to stock up the day before.

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16) Chiang Mai Coffee

Chiang Mai Coffee

Chiang Mai Coffee Farmer explains bean flavors

Do you like Coffee? The people in Chiang Mai love it.

In Chiang Mai many of the hundreds and hundreds of cafes will have their own coffee farms, to supply them with their house coffee. The coffee here is what is known as the top 1% (by those who spend time slurping and spitting it out). The Chiang Mai region grows Coffee – It is 100% organic, grown under natural shade at high attitudes and hand picked, wet processed and dried in the sun, and packaged with single source beans.

You are free to spend hours drinking coffee at any of the coffee shops, all of which provide AC on the hot days and free and fast WiFi.  There are coffee shops located within the city and on the outskirts surrounded by beautiful surroundings.  Every place will have prepackaged coffee for you to take home and enjoy in your own condo or house.

Many people suggest that Thailand Coffee is bitter.  This is just not the case, coffee is slightly bitter, but this aspect has been removed by the mass farmed plantations that supply many of the coffee companies around the world. There is nothing nicer than starting your day with a fresh brew of some of the best coffee in the world that you brought for $12 a kilo.

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17) No Horns, Hustlers, Poverty & Ripoffs

Reasons to Live in Chiang Mai

In Chiang Mai, you are NOT constantly asked to buy things

One of the most unpleasant things about living or traveling in Asia, is the constant harassment you get from the traders (who are just trying to make money to live).  Sales people, Tuk Tuk drivers, beggars on the street, will follow you and bother you hoping that you will purchase their wares. This does not happen in Chiang Mai.  The local people here are respectful and polite, here your “No” means No and you are left alone.

Often the prices are listed on items at the market, and unlike other places it is the same price for locals as it is the westerners.  You can still bargain in many places, but unlike many other places around the world – with the price on the eggs, or chicken – you know exactly what it is and never feel like you are being ripped off.

Thailand in general (not just Chiang Mai) does not use the horn like Philippines or Vietnam.  In other countries the horn is a constant sound and can get very annoying and cause noise stress.  It is difficult to relax with a wine, beer or coffee if every car and motorcycle passing by is tooting the horn.  Rest assured – none of these typical Asian experiences will be an issue in Chiang Mai.

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18) Safety

Chiang Mai is rated as one of the safest cities in the world. Crime against foreigners is extremely rare, and apart from riding a motorcycle, you will never feel intimidated or afraid for your safety. You can freely and comfortably walk around either during the day or the small hours of the night and feel totally safe even if you are a single women alone.

The scams that fill the headlines in western media about Thailand and Asia just do not happen here in Chiang Mai – or at least are very very rare. The one exception to this is the Mob run Karaoke Bars along Chang Klan road. Here you can go in for an hour, have a few drinks with a few ladies and come out with a 30,000 baht bill. Many (often drunk and loud) westerners do not understand how a few drinks and a couple of ladies flirting with them can cost $1000. The answer is simple – it is a scam – just don’t go there!

There is a special division of Police in Thailand called the Tourist Police, whose sole job is to help any westerners in distress.  Most of the time they are quick to respond and work on your behalf.  The rest of the time, (while this is slowly changing) Thai justice is not so much what has happened as who you know and how much ‘instant’ fines you are prepared to pay.

Generally however, compared to the rest of the world, Chiang Mai is very safe.  It is part of the values and culture here in Chiang Mai – crime is a sin and a sign of a weak person.  It is rarely done compared to other cultures and cities.

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19) So Much to Do!!

Chiang Mai Elephant Tour

There is more to life than just relaxing, and in Chiang Mai there’s plenty to do in your downtime. You may have seen the Elephant Painting on YouTube – here in Chiang Mai you can go and see it for real. You could visit one of the many Wats (temples); learn to cook Thai food, or how to give a massage. Perhaps learn a new language or get qualified to Teach English and donate some of your time to charities and children.

Chiang Mai is a popular tourist destination and caters for every type of activity.  You can learn how to train elephants, go to Spas and retreats, and take advantage of all the activities in place for the tourist.  In addition as someone who lives here you will have access to the many social groups and activities arranged by locals for locals.

When you are bored spending your days, relaxing by pools, drinking coconuts, and pottering around in your garden – there is enough to do in Chiang Mai to keep you busy and active for years.

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20) Transport is Cheap

You can hire a motorbike for 3000 baht a month (sometimes less and sometimes more) – but if you want to use public transport it is easily affordable. Chiang Mai is supposed to have a public bus system but you will never see it. The reality is the Red Truck and Tuk Tuk mafia own this town. Taxi’s are not allowed to drive around looking for customers, and there are no Motorcycle Taxi’s.

But! You can jump on the Red Trucks and travel for just 20 baht, a Tuk Tuk will cost you between 60-100 for a 5 kilometer trip (depending on the time of day and how well you haggle). Hiring Cars for day trips is around 800-1200 baht. If you need to do a Visa run, or want to visit another city (or country) the Bus, Train, Tour Vans and Flights are incredibly cheap.

Chiang Mai has an international Airport and has flights to many different countries starting at $100.  Fly one hour to Bangkok and the choice is almost endless.  From your base in Chiang Mai you can go to another country for a weekend or a week, for just a few hundred dollars.  In addition if you fancy a trip to the beach, the endless special offers for flights within Thailand mean you can do this as well starting at $15 per flight (although usually $60-100)

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21) Visa’s are Easy to Get

Getting a retirement Visa to Thailand is very easy and affordable.  The paperwork is small and there are endless local services that can take the hassle away and do the required work for you.

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22) Everything you will need is here

Chiang Mai is small enough to easily learn your way around and become familiar with the city, and big enough to have something for everyone. There are may reasons that Chiang Mai is one of the most popular places to retire. Houses and accommodation are plentiful and cheap, maids and help either live in or out are readily available.  Western owned and themed bars and restaurants, food, medical treatment, dentists, Expats clubs, Golf, Tennis, swimming, dance groups, acting classes, Yoda, fitness.

There is just no point trying to list everything that is here, rather it is easier to list what you can not find in Chiang Mai.
1) A Beach,
2) hmm That’s it!

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23) Chiang Mai Buddy

We at Chiang Mai Buddy are here to help with your transitions. We can help arrange for a local moving company to pack your belongings and store them, find you a short term accommodation that will allow you to explore the city.  Our staff can assist you with the small and big issues you will discover living in a new city and culture.  When you are ready we can help negotiate lease agreements, or point you in the right direction for English speaking business that are designed especially for the Expat looking to retire in Chiang Mai.

Did I mention how cheap it is to live in Chiang Mai?  Have a look at our pricing table and be prepared to be surprised.  Yes these prices are correct.  You can hire us for as little as $6 an hour to make calls for you, arrange cable, TV or Internet.  For just a little more we will come with you and assist you in person to get things done.

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There are of course so many other reasons to come and live in Chiang Mai.  It is a big step, and a difficult one.  We strongly suggest you come and visit for a month or two and really see how well you will adjust.

Reason to Not Retire in Chiang Mai, Thailand

There are a couple of reasons you should think twice about retiring here in Thailand.

The most important is a common issue here.  People come to retire early in life when they are younger (50 plus) and healthy.  As people age, and start to get more regular ill health – it can become a problem here.  Bear in mind that many people come from countries where after retirement age (60-65 years) they are entitled to free healthcare, assisted living, free bus rides etc.

If you are thinking of retiring in Thailand because you think it will save you money (This is true if you are healthy) but are starting to get older.  It might be better to stay in a country that offers health and aged services.

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